Why is SE so passionate about giving PLD's Critical Hit Rate on their gear?

[Infina]

FYI it does. A great deal of your weaponskills are defensive capabilities (see additional effects / combo bonuses for more info). Not to mention the faster WS casting time resulting in the universal cool down ending faster helps you to get that extra WS in before you need to worry about being free for stun. Also as we already discussed, the faster you hit threat cap the better, you can then cast some stoneskins, or maybe get some MP if you need, or throw in an extra few stuns, these are defensive capabilities.

Only Rage of Halone debuff helps, which is always up regardless of your skill speed.

Nothing in Second Coil require Stun. Don't bring up crap like Chimera or Ifrit HM.

On average, you would get more threat with crit than skill speed, therefore hitting the "threat cap" faster

What extra stuns are we talking about here again?

[Mijin]

Only Rage of Halone debuff helps, which is always up regardless of your skill speed.

Because increased emnityx2 and restore MP don't help I guess.

Nothing in Second Coil require Stun.

Can stun adds all day and all night.

On average, you would get more threat with crit than skill speed, therefore hitting the "threat cap" faster

Nope.

What extra stuns are we talking about here again?

Derp.

In a perfect setting with people geared to the gills, who never make mistakes, then yes CRIT would be better arguably, but none of you are that good, so I'll stick with defense rather than offense, except in the case where offense is the better defense (DPS checks), and then I'll just go WAR if the DPS suck that much.

Here is an example of a BG pld, as you can see they are super concerned about CRIT. (lol)

and another

and another

[SeraviEdalborez]

Can stun boss adds all day and all night.

In second coil? I think not.

[Mijin]

In second coil? I think not.

Then you thought wrong, on trash even auto attacks are stunable from what I've seen.

Extra skill speed is never going to save you when you make mistakes.

Sure doesn't make matters worse.

It really doesn't.

It does if you aren't a terrible player who doesn't ever SS themselves.

None of the adds in second coil can be stunned.

Depends on what you're trying to stun.

Do you even know how threat works?

I clearly know more than you do, not only about threat, but about every single aspect of life.

Clearly you don't even know how Savage Blade / Rage of Halone works.

yes because increased enmity is such a difficult concept to grasp.

Derp.

Derp.

[Sleigh]

Then you thought wrong, auto attacks are stunable from what I've seen.

Nope, an enemy is either stunnable or not. The stuff you say is super theory crafter level and doesn't seem to be from actual experience ... and if it is, it's from playing with people who can't play even decently and you probably shouldn't be talking about itemization and balance issues.

1. Tanking and healing are garbage easy in all content. Nothing's tuned for even i100, and even in i90 it was a joke to tank T9, like my group did. If you have to Stoneskin yourself to survive, I am so sorry.

2. SS sucks on PLD. All this hoola about Stoneskinning yourself, or being able to stun better, or build MP ... all irrelevant. You can't stun anything inside T6-9 once you're past the trash, BTW, not sure what hacks you've got to stun hornets, T7 adds, Dreadnaughts, or the wyvern in T9 but you're doing something interesting by trying it.

The SS benefits you provide are all theory crafter stuff that has almost nothing to do with coil or barely even dungeons/primals. At the end of the day DET >>> CHR > SS > Parry, because Parry doesn't even provide enough mitigation at max to change healing (Regen + Eos/Selene is more than enough in most content, and you're relying on CDs for harder hitting attacks). DET is by far the highest DPS increase. CHR is the second highest DPS increase, plus it has nothing to do with TP so it's win/win on T7 and T8. SS is a minor DPS increase that requires you to reach an extra attack or more before finishing a battle or cutting away from a target to have any worth, and if you run out of TP any excess TP is also going to waste.

It does if you aren't a terrible player who doesn't ever SS themselves.

Trust me, saying you Stoneskin yourself in content that matters isn't helping your case. You shouldn't be doing it except for T9 or if you run out of TP (which as said above, negates the SS benefits)

[Mijin]

abunchofdumbshit

First of all this is an awful long post for someone who doesn't care enough to respond to this thread LOL. Second everything you said here is all based on opinion and not on fact. I provided evidence for each one of my theories as to why I believe, that no matter how negligible, SS is still better than CRIT. The only evidence you provided on the other hand is that "herp to the derp, this game is like so softcore". Well no shit, but you aren't good enough, and will never play with people good enough for you to worry about putting offense before defense, no matter how passionate you are about wanting to be right.

Trust me, if you aren't casting stoneskin on yourself and you just stand there when you run out of TP (which happens with or w/o max SS) you are a terrible player and should purchase WoW immediately.

Any more questions?

[SeraviEdalborez]

Any more questions?

Yeah, what on earth possessed you to think stun works the way you thought it worked?

[Infina]

auto attacks are stunable from what I've seen.

Why did I even bother trying to teach a dumbass how to 123?

[Mijin]

Why did I even bother trying to teach a dumbass how to 123?

You didn't, you just said a bunch of random shit that has no barring on anything (just like this), and was easily disproved. For someone who can hardly even read or write, you sure are quick to call someone a dumb ass, do you project on others often?

In reality there is very little in this world you can teach me, other than idk, maybe the consequences incest procreation, but that's all that's coming to mind.

[Infina]

You didn't, you just said a bunch of random shit that has no barring on anything (just like this), and was easily disproved. For someone who can hardly even read or write, you sure are quick to call someone a dumb ass, do you project on others often?

So far you haven't disproved anything at all.