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    This thread....

    SS and Crit are worth about the same.

    In t7 dual tank as MT I always run out of TP it's not because of SS.

    In t8 your TP problems should line up perfectly with the melee TP problems and the BRD will fix that.

    SS is good for 9 hit zerks and faster aggro. CRIT is good for pictures.

    I cleared 6-7-8 way before I got the map achievement. I scared my now static the first week we formed since I told them I had cleared 6-8 and got the 6 map achievement right after we started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    They have yet to clear T8
    In Another Bind is "Beat T9". You generally don't beat T9 ten times without beating T8 at least once. So...

    P.S. It's nice that you know exactly how much damage you do from parsing it, but FFXIV APP is now considered a bannable offense. Third party software is against the ToS, and recently SE have actually started banning people for it. Of course, the only way they can find out if someone is using it is if they blatantly admit it like you just did. Sure would be a shame if some one were to report you.
    I didn't admit to anything. Nice try though. You don't have to be "the one" parsing in your group to know your DPS.

    Real nice attitude you have overall though. You played 1.0 so clearly you know what you're doing in this completely different game.
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    The problem with these stat questions is that you're all talking about philosophies, but not a single one of you is bothering to apply actual data in your examples so that what you're talking about can actually be anything other than anecdotes. That said the problem with your philosophies is your approach of "every little bit counts", a routinely common ideology for most MMO players who can't be bothered to really test out their theories. It's not just about increasing your damage mitigation or damage contribution, it's about increasing those values to a point where they matter.

    As a completely detached example, say you are playing a game where it takes an enemy roughly 10 attacks to kill you. Does increasing your damage mitigation by 5% increase the number of attacks you can sustain to 11? If not then the damage mitigation you've added is effectively meaningless as its' not contributing anything towards your survival. If you didn't *need* a 5% increase to survive then it's definitely not contributing anything to your survival.

    Obviously I haven't played far enough into *this* game to tell you what to do, but if you're looking for a method to back up what you're talking about nothing speaks louder than actual evidence and play testing. Clearly the people who regularly clear the content in question are able to survive doing so; I imagine that their damage mitigation is therefor sufficient for the task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warkupo View Post
    Obviously I haven't played far enough into *this* game to tell you what to do, but if you're looking for a method to back up what you're talking about nothing speaks louder than actual evidence and play testing. Clearly the people who regularly clear the content in question are able to survive doing so; I imagine that their damage mitigation is therefor sufficient for the task.
    Exactly my point.

    I tank in full i90 Ruby accessories with 30STR allotment, both as PLD and occasionally WAR. Our group's WAR does T6, T7(OT), T8(solo or OT), and T9 (OT) in full STR accs and also 30STR allotment.

    Survival is not an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Exactly my point.

    I tank in full i90 Ruby accessories with 30STR allotment, both as PLD and occasionally WAR. Our group's WAR does T6, T7(OT), T8(solo or OT), and T9 (OT) in full STR accs and also 30STR allotment.

    Survival is not an issue.

    Well doing i95 tuned content in i110 gear survival is not an issue.

    Non of us are going into t10 wearing STR accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Well doing i95 tuned content in i110 gear survival is not an issue.

    Non of us are going into t10 wearing STR accessories.
    If SE tunes the next coil as ridiculously low as they did T6-9, we very well might be having healers DPSing and i90 STR + VIT hybrid accessory tanks right out of the gate for T10+. I'd like to think they made the tank/healer/DPS checks so low because this was their first set of raids with a lot of mechanics in each turn, but considering their goal of keeping the game pretty casual I'm not so sure.
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    I don't expect T10+ to be require us to spec out of 30 STR (our aforementioned WAR has never ever changed from 30STR and STR accs since we downed Turn 5). It's going to be harder than 6-9 but easier than Savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    I don't expect T10+ to be require us to spec out of 30 STR (our aforementioned WAR has never ever changed from 30STR and STR accs since we downed Turn 5). It's going to be harder than 6-9 but easier than Savage.
    Yeah I have no interest in changing from 30/30 str.

    I do plan on using VIT or Runy accessories or a combo of both.

    You will also see a comeback of parry builds at least until strats are ironed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infina View Post
    By the way, your picture link doesn't work

    PEBCAK friendly friend because it works for everyone else. Here is another source, for your convenience

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    your log doesn't say anything about Melusine dying
    Redundant in light of picture, they're just random snips of log files I guess I didn't get the one where she dies there's quite a lot to go through, I can't believe you actually did. That's a lot of free time you've got there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infina View Post
    shield oath
    Who cares. Everyone's done it.

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    Where?
    The fact that they even brought it up when it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If they really believed it did then they are even worse than I portrayed them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infina View Post
    Well since you don't understand what that achievement means, here you go
    Oh well, I don't know the names of achievements that came out while I was away. I'm still better. The ironic and witty point I was making that if his theory of mapping achievements were true then they wouldn't have still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Oh well, I don't know the names of achievements that came out while I was away. I'm still better.
    You are still better despite not having cleared T9 once, much less 10 or 20 times.

    Ok then.
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