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  1. #11
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    Chris Box
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonofbaldo View Post
    Unfortunately that is the majority of the community so get used to it. They are the whiners that SE caters to. What happens when a group of cry babies keep getting their way? They cry even more. That is the essence of the XIV community.
    Yes, because you've met every single person who plays this game.
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  2. #12
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    LionKing's Avatar
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    Kaane Moka
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    You are a tank, you have the power to control the flows of the run. If the players are toxic towards you despite you did no do anything wrong or just because they wanted to do the way they want to, either simply leave or they will leave on their own accords and let they suffer the penalty. Any spot but rank spot is easily replaced within 10 mins. And as long as Healer is not the one quiting, you can resum the run like normal. That is the beauty of a tank in exchange for all the craps we take from them.

    Though, by saying this, I am not encourage anybody to abuse this power. At the end of the day, a Dun with no dispute is da best dun.

    On the second note, if you are really lv40 Gladiator, yes I will get mad
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  3. #13
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonofbaldo View Post
    Unfortunately that is the majority of the community so get used to it. They are the whiners that SE caters to. What happens when a group of cry babies keep getting their way? They cry even more. That is the essence of the XIV community.
    WTF are you talking about? Mostly what I see are very friendly people. I don't understand any of what you are saying, and it's interesting how you are stating it as if it were fact.
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  4. #14
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I've had good groups where everyone is laughing and having fun in a dungeon, supportive groups that will offer advice (nicely) if they notice something or will support you (verbally) when you fumble (I try to be one of these peeps, generally because I believe in 'Do unto others...') - and then groups that just instantly tear each other apart the moment someone says 'boo'. Or all rage quit the moment a little bit of difficulty sets in.

    It's really a luck of the draw.

    THough maybe it's just my luck, but I personally notice a lot more pissy players way later at night, though (so I guess I want to assume the nicer people have been smart and went to bed while I'm stuck with the angry, sleep deprived ones ; p) xD
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  5. #15
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    Saseal Korei
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    I don't mind silent parties, but only to a point - I can understand the PS3 thing since two of my FC members are on PS3 with keyboard attachment and one of which seriously hates typing with it (he does at least go out of his way to say 'hi' at the beginning, though)... but just feels a little rude when you say hello at entry - silence. Silence the whole way. Tell them thanks for the party or any other comment (Whew we did it, etc)... but not even a millisecond's pause before they stampede to exit the very second the boss dies like they're all just going through the motions/do not give two shits that anyone existed. It's like working with a bunch of lifeless robots. x.x
    But yeah. I don't expect people to go out of their way (nor do I have a suggestion other than a wave good bye as you're runnign to the exit on a emot button, maybe?) to say anything/do anything, but it's also difficult to not automatically feel a little dejected in response, either x_x
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  6. #16
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Just leave the dungeon, I rather face 15 min cooldown from DF then run a group of idiots for 30-40 minutes. As a tank you should decide the pace and not them.

    Just done Sunken Temple and in my group there was a idiot black mage, who kept spamming sleep, instead of doing damage. We tried kicking him out, but it failed, because the healer was his friend. After explaining to him that doing sleep was a bad thing, he told me that he knows this and wants to only cast sleep, because he can. This is one of the reasons why we have a shortage of tanks, to many idiots ruining for the good dps players.

    /rant

    OP, just leave, do not bother with the headache.
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  7. #17
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    I very rarely run into asshole players, uninformed players yes, but complete douchenozzles are a rarity. OP it sounds like you have horrible luck, might be a good idea to run with an FC
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  8. #18
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    Kaane Moka
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Just leave the dungeon, I rather face 15 min cooldown from DF then run a group of idiots for 30-40 minutes. As a tank you should decide the pace and not them.

    Just done Sunken Temple and in my group there was a idiot black mage, who kept spamming sleep, instead of doing damage. We tried kicking him out, but it failed, because the healer was his friend. After explaining to him that doing sleep was a bad thing, he told me that he knows this and wants to only cast sleep, because he can. This is one of the reasons why we have a shortage of tanks, to many idiots ruining for the good dps players.

    /rant

    OP, just leave, do not bother with the headache.
    1/ Did he just cast sleep only? Then he is an idiot.
    2/ If he cast sleep and you break it or whoever break it due to AoE, then either tell him not to sleep or you mark the target that will be tanked, so the whole PT focus the marked target down instead of AoE.
    3/If he cast one sleep, then follow with the BLM rotation, then I think because he run with his friend, as a healer, he cast sleep to make healing easier. At the level for Sunken Temple, those Mobs hit pretty hard, especially Bee. I, as Ilv 103 tank, when run this Duns, I still die with 2 Bees on me. Those Final Sting bite like a truck.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionKing View Post
    1/ Did he just cast sleep only? Then he is an idiot.
    2/ If he cast sleep and you break it or whoever break it due to AoE, then either tell him not to sleep or you mark the target that will be ta~ked, so the whole PT focus the marked target down instead of AoE.
    3/If he cast one sleep, then follow with the BLM rotation, then I think because he run with his friend, as a healer, he cast sleep to make healing easier. At the level for Sunken Temple, those Mobs hit pretty hard, especially Bee. I, as Ilv 103 tank, when run this Duns, I still die with 2 Bees on me. Those Final Sting bite like a truck.
    Thanks for the respond.

    1. Yes, He only used sleep. The other dps and myself asked him and adviced him which spells he should cast, but it was very obivious he was trolling and he confirmed this aswell. I think what pissed me off was the fact that we could not kick him out.

    2. When I am tanking, I tend to mark the mobs that need sleep, this way other players can avoid attacking it.

    3. This would have been understandable if this was the situation, but the Monk did alot of dps and I made sure to use my defensive skills at the right time + stuns and shield swipe. I hardly got any damage and I always ask my healers if I should pull less, mark mobs for sleep or use more defensive skills.

    We finished the run, but if its one thing I dislike is carrying players who bring nothing to the group.
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  10. #20
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    Oh well, what can you do? >_>...If you leave, pity for the other Dps, if you stay, it pisses you off.... " It takes two to tango", or in this case, "to troll"....

    As for the sleep Mark, because BLM Sleep is an AOE, I tend to find it easier to just Mark the one I will be tanking, as to avoid leave many marks on the field if multi-target need to be slept as well as to avoid the confusion That is when I am on my Pal.

    If I am on my Warrior, YOLO...It is the one thing that Warrior good at
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    Last edited by LionKing; 09-29-2014 at 11:14 PM.

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