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  1. #1021
    Player
    HaroldSaxon's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/02/25
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    637
    Character
    Harold Saxon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:OneWingedSora 投稿を閲覧
    Where in my post did I imply that Spellspeed was ever bad ? All I said was T6 and T9 are more burst heavy and thus a Crit/Det build there works better. There are the bulbs, bees, Golems, Heavens fall phase, etc..
    Given that you said Crit and Det is better in those turns, that. I've had no problems with burst in those turns, even when I was doing T6 with an i95 weapon. I've also had no problems with my DPS in those turns, and I know I can do a hell of a lot better in T9.
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  2. #1022
    Player
    OneWingedSora's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/23
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    Character
    Mala Liath
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    黒魔道士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:HaroldSaxon 投稿を閲覧
    Given that you said Crit and Det is better in those turns, that. I've had no problems with burst in those turns, even when I was doing T6 with an i95 weapon. I've also had no problems with my DPS in those turns, and I know I can do a hell of a lot better in T9.
    Right. Because saying Spell Speed isn't the best at something makes it automatically bad. And it's not about if YOU had problems or not, it's about it working better in general. Let's say your groups DPS isn't so sharp, or maybe another DPS died at that point. The burst will really help there.

    Quote 引用元:HaroldSaxon 投稿を閲覧
    and I know I can do a hell of a lot better in T9.
    Than ?
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  3. #1023
    Player
    PuroStrider's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/30
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    Character
    Puro Strider
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lv 0
    Updated Gear Page with Nexus + Alternate BiS 2.38 (thx Rika Persika) + New Stat Weights for all stats

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    Started working on measuring time mechanics for all spells last night. Hopefully I'll have it done before Ninja comes out.. or it'll never be done :P
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    2014/09/27 00:33; PuroStrider が最後に編集

  4. #1024
    Player
    HaroldSaxon's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/02/25
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    Character
    Harold Saxon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:OneWingedSora 投稿を閲覧
    Right. Because saying Spell Speed isn't the best at something makes it automatically bad. And it's not about if YOU had problems or not, it's about it working better in general. Let's say your groups DPS isn't so sharp, or maybe another DPS died at that point. The burst will really help there.
    If your group doesn't have the DPS to get down the bee's or a bulb in T6, then there are glaring issues in the group that will not be solved by a BLM switching to crit/det.


    Quote 引用元:OneWingedSora 投稿を閲覧
    Than ?
    That what i'm currently doing now, I feel that personally I can improve a lot more in T9.
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  5. #1025
    Player
    Ceveth's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/02/05
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    Character
    Ceveth Airen
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 60
    I'm not sure if anyone is interested at this point, but the BiS for Nexus is incorrect.

    Spreedsheet; Determination 31 & Spell Speed 44.
    444.5 - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NXC7
    http://puu.sh/bQJ8y/b241745be1.png

    Proposed alternative; Accuracy 21, Determination 10 & Spell Speed 44. (Thanks to Zencurse.)
    445.4 - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NXDU
    http://puu.sh/bR1BR/9d95065307.png
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    2014/09/28 18:49; Ceveth が最後に編集

  6. #1026
    Player
    Zencurse's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/10
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    Character
    James Cairn
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 53
    Quote 引用元:Ceveth 投稿を閲覧
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    Could be interesting if true. But the increase looks rather small at best...And also I know a lot of BLMs are gearing their nexus to SS/Acc in prep for 2.4 accuracy caps. Though a 21, 31, 23 split does provide some accuracy. Obviously we've no clue what the caps will be in 2.4 but if thats just barely enough accuracy to push us over the cap in the right gear, it could be a decent setup. As for myself I'm still just gonna play it safe for now and go 44 SS/31 acc
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  7. 2014/09/28 18:33

  8. #1027
    Player
    Zencurse's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/04/10
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    Character
    James Cairn
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 53
    Quote 引用元:Ceveth 投稿を閲覧
    DET is worth more than SSPD any other stat in the 1:1 ratio Nexus provides.
    You're going to want 31 DET on whatever you Nexus weapon is.
    I would not recommend 44 SS/31 ACC.
    Read this and double checked the spreadsheet, yea the new stat weights are much closer for SSpd and Det. But even at a 1:1 ratio SSpd comes out ahead still, even if not entirely, in some raid situations Fey Glow will be up at a 50% up time and increases the value of SSpd even further. Assuming Puro's math is correct wouldn't SSpd remain the better stat? Seriously if I'm missing something here lemme know, it just appears to point towards SSpd.
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  9. #1028
    Player
    Ceveth's Avatar
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    2014/02/05
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    Ceveth Airen
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:Zencurse 投稿を閲覧
    Read this and double checked the spreadsheet, yea the new stat weights are much closer for SSpd and Det. But even at a 1:1 ratio SSpd comes out ahead still, even if not entirely, in some raid situations Fey Glow will be up at a 50% up time and increases the value of SSpd even further. Assuming Puro's math is correct wouldn't SSpd remain the better stat? Seriously if I'm missing something here lemme know, it just appears to point towards SSpd.
    It appears my previous statement was erroneous & after the most recent update "melding" SSPD instead of DET 1:1 does appear to be better.
    I'll have to take a second look at the Nexus meld I had proposed.

    After editing the previous BiS Nexus proposition it appears to be closer to a 1 DPS increase now.
    The real take-home should be that the Nexus weapon is 1.2~ DPS better than the HA one, despite SE saying that this would never be the case.
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    2014/09/28 18:59; Ceveth が最後に編集

  10. #1029
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    PuroStrider's Avatar
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    2013/08/30
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    229
    Character
    Puro Strider
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lv 0
    *Updated Calculator Page (v5.3) with added row for 'Theoretical Total INT'
    *Also updated some wordings on How each stat affects one another


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    I'm almost done testing all the timings and stuff also. Almost....
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  11. #1030
    Player
    Zeny's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/07/03
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    Character
    Chipi Chapa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Ceveth 投稿を閲覧
    I'm not sure if anyone is interested at this point, but the BiS for Nexus is incorrect.

    Spreedsheet; Determination 31 & Spell Speed 44.
    I've started to notice quite a bit of BLMs with this on their Novus. I went for a cheaper, more balanced Novus of 21 crit 21 det and 33 ss. Is it really worth remelding the extra SS/Det you think? I'm not too active in coil :S
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