Shocked at the reduction in mage damage, quadruple mp cost, and lowered resources

[SuzakuCMX]

To be perfectly honest me neither. I was thinking of switching it to the similar Brittany spears one but I think that might make it worse.

Put it in spoiler tags :P

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Put it in spoiler tags :P

NEVAAAAR. NYEEEEH.
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[SuzakuCMX]

NEVAAAAR. NYEEEEH.
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He totally can, I destroyed all the horcruxes.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

He totally can, I destroyed all the horcruxes.

You're wrong. You're the last horcrux. The one he never intended to create!

[tachikoma]

Oscillate_Wildly: do you think the mp should be back to pre 1.18? I'd think a main job CON would be happy to finally have a place in a party since pre 1.18 it was: THM>all>CON

And you even said MP has never been an issue yet, and now it is... isn't this proving the point that this change was needed? You should be focused on MP usage as a mage this seems like common sense? and Yes DD's are already bound by TP generation rates. Imaging a DD that can spam WS's w/o stopping this seems like a nice ZERO strat game that I would never touch.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Oscillate_Wildly: do you think the mp should be back to pre 1.18? I'd think a main job CON would be happy to finally have a place in a party since pre 1.18 it was: THM>all>CON

And you even said MP has never been an issue yet, and now it is... isn't this proving the point that this change was needed? You should be focused on MP usage as a mage this seems like common sense? and Yes DD's are already bound by TP generation rates. Imaging a DD that can spam WS's w/o stopping this seems like a nice ZERO strat game that I would never touch.

No I don't think MP should go back to pre-18 but it should go down at least a little. Like I said I'm more upset with the fact that both mage classes pre-patch were decent healers. If you had 2 in a party, either could heal. It's true that thau was generally better at it, but after this patch that is no longer the case. For a game that came out initially with the basis that party roles are a thing of a past, and we should play the way we want to, making it impossible for a thau to now main heal a party is...a little cruel. Particularly to those who leveled thau with main healing in mind.

It's true they needed to be nerfed to a degree as did archers, but SE didn't just nerf skills, they killed a play-style for many players. I don't like that conjurer has become the only class able to main heal effectively in a party situation. In my opinion that was a poor move, there were other ways of preparing both Conjurer and Thaumaturge for their Jobs in future patches.

For one, Jobs are an additional playstyle, described to be used in party-like environments and offer a new way to play that specific armoury-set. But we haven't gotten there and already it seems like Conjurer's roll as both a class and a job is designated, unless it unlocks blackmage instead.
Even still, if that truly is the case, that still means that Conjurer is still the only CLASS able to main heal a party with AoE heals.
Curaga and Curaga II should never have happened, there was nothing wrong with the AoE toggle, and this line of thinking really needs its own thread. It's about more than nerfed skills and mp, this patch annihilated beautifully a thau's ability to be more than a DOT machine. :/

As they both still share aspects of the WHM job, I thought it was silly that their role has been reduced this much.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

In FFXVII, this patch will show up in the Loyalty Mode thread.

After the Squeenix-Tecmoei-namco-Bandai-Capnami merge.

[Raistlin]

i like mage now, i have to take care with my MP, people need Mages to party coz now they cant autoheal, etc

if you dont like it is coz u are these guys that at begin of playing GTA before doing first mission, u already pasted codes for invencible, infinite ammo, infinite all, instant kills, etc

Easy mode: off

[Icopico]

i personally LOL hard at this patch, which was expected by everyone as a gaming-improving patch and resulter as a 10% new stuff - 90% massive nerfs.

LOL /goodbye FFXIV

[Morphemes]

yeah, I'm sorry for you loss. Perhaps there is another class that is closer to your preference in play-style. I really do feel for you but you should know that if these kinds of adjustments don't happen Final Fantasy XIV will probably fail. Extreme differences in the dynamics of playstyle is what Final Fantasy is all about. With regard to this, the popularity of the Final Fantasy Online games is solely dependent on expectations. OF course the developers are always trying to bring new players into their camp, but clones of every other mmorpg on the market are not exactly in high demand which further enforces the necessity of tactile alterations.

Magic isn't easy, really impossible.

AT least your house didn't burn down...