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    Lightbulb How I think this SHOULD have been done

    Rather than personal housing, I'd have preferred if they'd implemented variety in the personal rooms:
    The personal rooms cost 300k for a regular room with 50 item allowances, and that's it... very basic. Then there is the tier 2 option, pricing could be exponential like they did with the FC housing, but this room is bigger and allows you to have 75 item allowances and a small window garden for personal gardening, having 3 plots for planting so you could potentially get crossbreeds if you so wanted. Then they could do a third tier, same style of pricing, so we're talking in the range of 5mil more than likely for a tier 3 room, but it could have had a second floor, 100 allowances, and maybe a balcony area that would allow you to have a full size garden. Since you can only own one FC room per person, it would solve the problem of people buying out all the plots, and if you didn't have the gil to get a big room at first, you could buy a small and upgrade to a mid/large size room in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    Rather than personal housing, I'd have preferred if they'd implemented variety in the personal rooms [...]
    Continuation of the above:
    As there really is no reason for one person to have a personal chocobo stable, but being able to plant your own garden when, even with a large fc house, gardening space is limited and usually only officers in an FC would be given the authority to use them, means that more people get the opportunity to experience that aspect of the game and also reap the rewards.

    I was very interested in personal housing, when I believed it was going to be a separate instance. I'm not anymore, maybe I'll wait and see how they implement marriage into it and see if they work out the kinks, but as it is. . . it's just awful.
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    A Moon on the water, a wind in the trees, all and none belong to me.
    And so I must wander, down a road e'er long, over mountains, through valleys, singing these bard songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
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    That something I did suggest earlier being Personal Apartments. Not as grand as Personal Housing but doesn't require a lot like Personal Housing.

    It starts out as a Inn Room size with a small Balcony for outdoor housing content that support a small Pot Garden (Pot Gardens can only hold 2 seeds).

    Then there is the expansion upgrades for the Personal Apartment being that there is a expansion for Room expansion with 1st expansion being a larger room, 2nd expansion adding a small 2nd room, and Final expansion increasing the size of the 2nd room.

    The Balcony expansion starts out as 1st expansion increase the Balcony size to support Chocobo Stable and adds more room for more Outdoor Housing stuff, 2nd Expansion increase balcony size again, 3rd expansion increase balcony size to small house yard size.

    Of course expansions will cost gil since you're asking for upgrading a Apartment room inside a building owned by the Adventure Guild. Apartment Rooms should be obtained by buying one at one of the City States and depending on where you have your Apartment determine the texture and balcony view of the Apartment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    Rather than personal housing, I'd have preferred if they'd implemented variety in the personal rooms:
    That would only be an alternative if the personal rooms were separated from (or at least not limited to) FC houses, and offered at perhaps the Adventurer's Guilds as well. As is, they only provide housing to people who already have at least some portion of housing anyway (though most only get personal control of it within their room). People shouldn't be forced to abandon the FC where their friends are because they have to join some big group of strangers they don't even like in order to have access to a house and a room. That's one of the problems a lot of us were hoping personal housing would solve, by removing the pressure that you have to be in an FC which has a house in order to take part in that part of the content.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    The personal rooms cost 300k for a regular room with 50 item allowances, and that's it... very basic. Then there is the tier 2 option, pricing could be exponential like they did with the FC housing, but this room is bigger and allows you to have 75 item allowances and a small window garden for personal gardening, having 3 plots for planting so you could potentially get crossbreeds if you so wanted. Then they could do a third tier, same style of pricing, so we're talking in the range of 5mil more than likely for a tier 3 room, but it could have had a second floor, 100 allowances, and maybe a balcony area that would allow you to have a full size garden.
    Yes, adding multiple size options on the rooms/apartments would be great (especially if the gil you've already spent on the smaller one goes towards the cost of the larger one you're upgrading to). I'd like the balcony on the largest to have room for both a full-size garden and some yard decorations, though. That would have to be a really big balcony. (Essentially, the largest personal should have about as much "yard" space as the small FC house, whether that's a yard or balcony.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    Since you can only own one FC room per person, it would solve the problem of people buying out all the plots
    Isn't it one per character, the same as the personal houses are? So up to eight per person if they have eight characters?
    Well, in any case, it would still take care of people buying out all the plots if these are instanced like the current personal rooms so don't take up plots.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    As there really is no reason for one person to have a personal chocobo stable
    Well, currently there is if they want to be able to train and/or color their chocobo, but there's been some talk about adding chocobo training at the chocobo porter stables. If that goes in, it will remove the need for everyone to have housing access to a chocobo stable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
    but being able to plant your own garden when, even with a large fc house, gardening space is limited and usually only officers in an FC would be given the authority to use them, means that more people get the opportunity to experience that aspect of the game and also reap the rewards.
    Agreed. SE needs to make sure that all aspects of the game are available to everyone who wants to do them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Well, currently there is if they want to be able to train and/or color their chocobo, but there's been some talk about adding chocobo training at the chocobo porter stables.
    I agree, it would be cool if you could train your bird at a chocobo porter station and dye it too. . . I agree that this content shouldn't just be reserved for people in free companies.
    Still, I really have to say I detest the housing system as it is, but I do think that before personal housing took over FC housing, the system was fine. You had to have an FC to get a house in the wards, only one house per FC and your FC had to reach a certain rank to have authorization. It gave FC's a goal to work for, and a reward that was pretty much guaranteed, but not anymore. I digress. . . I think I'm done grumbling over this unless Square eff's it up some more after 'marriage' is introduced. See you all after 2.4 ;3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusari-chan View Post
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    And what of those people who choose not to be in an FC? After four train wrecks I chose to remain FC-less and do multiplayer stuff with linkshells. This means I don't get to take part in this fluff content, and gardening, and chocobo raising? If so, this would be the first modern mmo to require you to be in a guild to enjoy everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    And what of those people who choose not to be in an FC? After four train wrecks I chose to remain FC-less and do multiplayer stuff with linkshells. This means I don't get to take part in this fluff content, and gardening, and chocobo raising? If so, this would be the first modern mmo to require you to be in a guild to enjoy everything.
    That one reason why Personal Apartements can be ideal for players that don't have FC nor enough gil to buy a Personal house or not enough land avaliable for players to buy a personal house.

    SE should consider Personal Apartments since it would be a good start for players that actually want a Personal Customizable Home.
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