Feedback to the moderation team.

[Riardon]

The rules are clear. They delete flame threads to avoid trash talk and toxic community and they do well. If I make a thread swearing or flaming or whatever trash talk then yes I deserve to be banned.

[Risvertasashi]

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Different one. A thread that starts off discussing another game, I'm not surprised if it gets locked (or even deleted).

There's a lot of stuff that gets deleted though.

[Alukah]

The thing that worries me the most is how they choose to delete threads over deleting posts or locking threads.

The case that worried me the most was this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2347801

With the weekend coming up, I won't be responding further to any questions. I hope I was able to provide some insight and clarity; I also know there's a bit of frustrating opaqueness that is a part of my responses as well.

I will be having GMs monitor the thread if it remains active. I'm sure there are discussions left to be had, so please remember to keep it civil and sometimes just accept that the best course of action is to agree to disagree. This will prevent the GMs from having to lock or remove the thread, the latter of which would remove any responses I could give for anyone else looking through the forums or as a point of reference.

LGM Enkrateia

That thread hosts SE's first (and only) open statement regarding the hunt and their stance on resetting marks, yet they were willing to remove the thread if the discussion turned uncivil, when all they would have to do is remove those uncivil posts, or lock the thread it if things went too far. I feel like they should make use of the lock and post deletion features more often, thread deletion should be saved for the extreme cases.

[Shougun]

Different one. A thread that starts off discussing another game, I'm not surprised if it gets locked (or even deleted).

There's a lot of stuff that gets deleted though.

Ah ok, I have no idea what I'm talking about*

I will take my leave from this thread lol <3


*Although my suggestions on some threads appearing like deletions is a real occurrence, sometimes they go down for a bit while being cleaned out and come back later.

[Risvertasashi]

The rules are clear. They delete flame threads to avoid trash talk and toxic community and they do well. If I make a thread swearing or flaming or whatever trash talk then yes I deserve to be banned.

I agree with you 100%. Except that the rules aren't so clear. Yes, if you do those particular examples you'll get your post deleted and possibly banned. If you read my OP, you'll see I'm not talking about those kinds of threads.

[Sessurea]

Well it's a private forum, however, it's plain to see those rules are not enforced, from what I have seen again and again, anyways.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

While Square can delete threads from people that give constructive criticism if they really wanted to, it would obviously lead to bad relations with the consumer. Like any other forum, mods and admins can lock and delete threads as they see fit. When a thread gets out of control with massive amounts of flaming from multiple parties or whatever, it's usually better to lock/delete threads and inform the offending parties why what they did was wrong while at the same time, everyone else can start over in a clean slate without grievances from the previous thread. Simply deleting offending posts can be very time consuming for a single moderator to do (and they have many other reports to go over in a given day) and a deleted post will usually just result in "OMG WHY YOU CENSORING ME!?", which then results in THAT post being deleted, ad infinity.

[skaterger]

Couldn't disagree more. This is one of the most lenient forums I've been on. Blatant troll posts are allowed to stay up for hours and investigations only seem to be carried out when sufficient number of people report them. There seems to be little to no policing on the boards by the mods. Contrast that with wildstar where i quit posts are either locked or deleted and they have a consolidated thread where players can air their grievances. This frees up a lot of clutter. It's also important to note that just because a thread is worded in polite discourse does not exempt it from being inappropriate if the intent is to stir up trouble.

The best example is the housing debacle where certain self important people thought they had to create a new thread even though the front page was literally filled with the same thing. They should have consolidated all complains into a mega housing thread and
gave out warnings to those who continously flouted the rules.

[HeroSamson]

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I don't even wanna post on forums anymore due to the fact Trolls can report your old post that have anything to do with talking down to a member of the forums and getting you banned.

So basically if I go dig up one of your old topics of you talking down to someone or disagreeing starting a scene i can get you banned just by reporting it.
Even if you have a difference of opinion or you don't like something that is supposed to be shaming someone even if you cuss.
If you think your post is good and you think it's not a bad one it's still bad.

It happened to me someone dug up a 9 month old post from 2013 and I got a email like on it about 4 days ago saying my account will be terminated if I keep it up a post I don't really remember it doesn't even matter if the post was from 2-3 years ago they can still report it that is crappy.

The rules need to be tweaked a bit because I can see this going in a bad direction and I don't wanna post on here anymore if that is the case.

Sooner or later some little mad troll kids are gonna try it and get everyone banned just because its funny and don't say it can't happen it's the internet they've done it on youtube and they do it on other sites this is no different.

Also saying peoples names, if they didn't want that why is everyone's name under their avatar?

[Mugiawara]

Couldn't disagree more. This is one of the most lenient forums I've been on. Blatant troll posts are allowed to stay up for hours and investigations only seem to be carried out when sufficient number of people report them. There seems to be little to no policing on the boards by the mods.

Once you've been banned, there's no way to appeal it, or anything.
My problem is, if I got banned or have a question for the Mods, there is NO way in hell to contact them. I've tried too via SE contact. They couldn't do anything.
People seriously are extremely sensitive on these forums imo. You don't even get a warning; you either get a 10 day or a perm ban.
I guess they find it easier to delete the topic as a whole, since whoever is acting up, they have to delete so and so's quote too
and whoever else's quote and sift through posts...so...easier to just nuke it all lol.


@HeroSamson.
I got banned because I reported this guy who was cursing me out and downing me like no ones business, and I have never
seen him again so I'm sure he got banned, turns around and gets me banned lol for saying the A word.
Tons of people say the A word or talk about how bad people are in DF or in-game and I get banned for it, funny stuff lol.
I still have the e-mail of why I got it too.