Rogue/Ninja with 2.4 and no new tank/heals?

[Exstal]

I agree this change seems fun in the short-term, but in the long term it is only going to make the dps ques longer and make it harder for dps to find raid groups in the scob. What they need is a new tank/healer class. I'll admit I don't find tanks or healers particularly fun; tanks mainly because it seems like you need to know a fight inside and out to be successful at it. I don't want to do a fight over and over again to learn when exactly I should press a certain move to decrease damage and I certainly don't like positioning bosses in some fights. It feels like I'm just a punching bag basically.

As for healer, that seems even less fun than tanking to me. It seems like you just spam click your party members on the party menu when you see some green drop and click mostly the same heal button over and over again, occasionally casting esuna when someone gets a status debuff or a aoe heal when needed.

[Urielparadox]

The dps que's are seperate between ranged and physical so if this takes blms, beds and smn onto a physical dps. Lowering ranged ques. I'm happy.

[reivaxe]

I think if the game had more interesting and dynamic Tanking classes people would be more willing to give em a try. I main Pld and ... we have one acceptable combo end game and only the last part of it is pretty to look at. Hell, I'm leveling towards War cause at least there's more complexity and such there.


So yeah, of the 2 classes we have one isn't bores- vill to look at/ play ... and now we get a dsp class that's flashy as all hell?

IDK, I think visuals are a big deal to people and at the end of the day we all just want our characters to look and feel like bad asses. Making more interesting to "play and look at" tank classes could go a long way towards making getting more people to try tanking. I mean, if Ninja had been a tanking class then I'm sure we would still see no shortage of Ninjas running around.

But even this part of the forum can't seem to agree on what a new class could or should do. "Oh, you would just be wasting a weapon to make a tank with more ranged threat attacks!/ A pet class tanking? That would be too complex/ A dodge tank? that class would either be broken or weak as hell for end game/ A melee tank that does xyz? That's just a retread of WAR ..." IDK wut to expect but I hope they go with a more interesting angle and what we have.

[Laerune]

When 2.4 hits the Queue is going to take ages for dps, I reckon might be seeing people do Fates more often again.

[subteraneanbird]

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"I play the most boring tank. Why is tanking so boring?"

[reivaxe]

"I play the most boring tank. Why is tanking so boring?"

Well, that's only HALF right.

Yes, PLD is boring. Yeah, boring to look at and play ... but TANKING is fun as heck to me! PLD was my first because my friends who got me to play this game partly did it so that I could learn how to tank and tank for them. They told me that for End Game PLD was better and more desired and I believed them.

Now that I know more I'm moving on to leveling War (which may be less of a bore but still not TOO much better).
If you have 50% of the Tank classes in this game be a bore to play/ look at then it should be no small wonder as to why more people don't do it. It's a role that's not meant for everyone ... but having a fun and interesting class would surely help bring in more people who are willing to stick with it.

[repoe]

yea dps que does take longer than tank/heals. I use that time to work on crafts.Funny thing for all the rants about dps que ,most of the time that df keeps resets when I'm que for stuff is from a dps not commencing

[Warlyx]

Thats because dps felt sleep waiting

And yeah improving tanks both visually and gameplay wise could go a long way to entice ppl to play that roles more

Some jobs need updated skill animations, look at bard ouside aoe skills everything feels the same, smn isnt any better...

[Synestr]

My main is PLD. I love em. He is stronk turtle. He is what I use on progression and when learning new things.
My WAR, is for balls out fun tanking. RaWr, john effing madden, et. etc. after I have learned the content and working on farm, or if my PLD isn't needed.

I enjoy both of them. Interesting to see what is to come.

[ruskie]

Well I'll be one of the few people leveling their tank classes during 2.4... atm working on mrd/war then will work on gld/pld so there will be some of us enjoying those insta queues for leveling up.