WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

[SkylerStorm]

Thing is Ballad should never be needed unless someone is doing something wrong or messed up them self through bad mp management standing in stuff. I would never look at MP bars when playing my bard because I focus on DPSing.

Using that logic may as well not bother bringing a Bard in the first place then. If no one dies and there will be no mp issues, then may as well bring a better DPS.

[Zumi]

Using that logic may as well not bother bringing a Bard in the first place then. If no one dies and there will be no mp issues, then may as well bring a better DPS.

Well that's the luxury of having every job in the game at 50.

[SkylerStorm]

Well that's the luxury of having every job in the game at 50.

Having every job at 50 doesn't mean much if you don't play them effectively though.

I'd much rather a Bard doing 300+ and not singing, than a Bard doing 100-200 and singing xD

In that rare example I would agree lol. But I was responding to someone who said they don't bother with ballad because they shouldn't have to. So they would rather wipe because a healer has run out of MP to teach them a lesson than just ballad. Just seems a little bizarre to me. Would be like a healer saying they'd refuse to heal a tank because they weren't using their defensive cooldowns.

[scarebearz]

Using that logic may as well not bother bringing a Bard in the first place then. If no one dies and there will be no mp issues, then may as well bring a better DPS.

For most content such as primals Bard is a very good DPS class (when played well) regardless of if they sing or not.

A Bard not singing is not really any different from a Healer who does not DPS when they have the time to do so, I see plenty of both in DF.

I'd much rather a Bard doing 300+ and not singing, than a Bard doing 100-200 and singing xD

[Zantitrach]

For most content such as primals Bard is a very good DPS class (when played well) regardless of if they sing or not.

A Bard not singing is not really any different from a Healer who does not DPS when they have the time to do so, I see plenty of both in DF.

*whoosh* That was the point of the post, over you head. BRD is not top DPS. So if you're not going to sing and contribute to the team as a whole AND ONLY DPS........... Why don't they just bring a DPS that does more... DPS?

[scarebearz]

*whoosh* That was the point of the post, over you head. BRD is not top DPS. So if you're not going to sing and contribute to the team as a whole AND ONLY DPS........... Why don't they just bring a DPS that does more... DPS?

If you think Bard DPS is that much worse than the other DPS classes, then you have obviously not played with any decent ones.

Singing or not singing does not always mean they are doing poor DPS.

What I mentioned is not a rare case at all, I've seen *many* non-singing bards pull their weight DPS wise. Just as I've seen many geared bards (that do sing) doing hardly any DPS and pretty much being carried.

For any non-raid (i.e. Duty Finder) contend ballad should only be needed if the Healers are bad.