Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[xXRaineXx]

Good words.

Sometimes I like to visit random wards and trespass random homes *cough* Then I see how much FC's have dedicated their time to decorate their little base, it's really cool to see that; I even feel envious. But if everyone could simply get houses... I probably wouldn't even bother with it.

[ZReport]

I said Live letters. not dev posts, blogs.

Ive been around since the start. and I havent seen such dedication from a producer, Like yoshi. So ill give him the benefit of the doubt

I'm with you man, but it's hard to even argue when you read posts like this:

Cut him some slack? Really ? No!!! He stated things would not happen at the end of 1.0 but we all know how that turned out, they basicly lied to the players, and now he says that the information was vague for player housing? Really? Thats a load of crock right there as players have quoted what he has said. The fact is he didnt bother to bring the changes to the players and got major flack for it.

Right after your (or someone else's) eloquent posts. You basically are fighting an uphill battle against a ton of entitled players who feel Yoshi should kiss their feet and pamper their every need. I have nothing against people being mad; it was a bad move on Yoshi's behalf, one he could have waited on even longer for a better solution. However, it's when you read all of these posts and responses with nothing but vitriol is when you realize there's no arguing with children. Regardless of the fact, this will be like a distant memory in the future that no one will remember.

I'm also in your shoes -- I've also never seen such dedication come from anyone in any form of development that rivals Yoshi-P's.

[Snugglebutt]

Like a lot of people already said price is NOT the major problem with housing...it's the availability that the biggest problem so as far as I am concerned you wasted your question towards him. There is only enough houses especially small ones for less than a couple percent of the entire player base even after 2.4 no matter how much gil you have there is still only enough for a microscopic fraction of players in this game. Someone needs to push him on that not the price. Everyone who plays can save up and earn enough to buy one (if was enough plots) but only a couple percent can actually get one in reality as it stands now and after 2.4, locking around 98% of the player base out of the possibility of owning one regardless of how much gil you might have because there is not enough plots even after 2.4.

Most people thought buying a personal house would only be few million based on his claim from before earlier in the year and prior to him changing the meaning of his comment only after the patch came out so he might not have lied but he sure as hell misled people, they did not save up or retain 40-80mil gil for personal house and spent most of the gil on other things leaving only enough that they thought would be enough and that is the main reason why some servers have large plots etc remaining. If they knew he would screw them over in such a big way they would of saved up a hell of a lot more prior to patch coming out and you would have had zero medium or large plots left too within minutes or couple hours. The problem not being addressed at all, not even with the crappy 2.4 quantity they plan to bring in is there will still not be enough plots for even a fraction of the player base even if they save up for it now that people know you need 40-80mil to get one at all on most servers as just like when 2.38 came out most servers sold out of smalls in seconds and the same will happen in 2.4.

If you want a pat on the back for asking him a pointless question about pricing which matters a thousand times less than availability, sorry but not getting one from me because you failed to actually grasp the real problem and failed to ask him about that problem. You are just like he is, out of touch by focusing on price instead of availability. This is the way it currently works with 100% of players have the option of saving up enough to buy one if one existed, 98% of players have no chance and no option of buying one no matter how much gil they save because not enough exists now or after 2.4. As such price vs availability, the latter is the problem here not the former so I wish people would stop being so ignorant on the issue only focusing about price like you did when had chance to get to the root of real problem when questioning him which is availability.

[Kallera]

Housing is a personal achievement. Do you know how I have come to that conclusion? The game's director said it is. People really need to understand that. This game's housing is a gil sink and something you're are supposed to dedicate TIME towards getting it. If you want casual housing this is not the game for you.

Please tell me you weren't serious with this, and that this was sarcasm over the internet.

housing is the last place I would want to get thrown in the pit of ridiculousness that is hardcore and casual...

Especially in light of other mmos having a better more expansive system for cheaper compared to this.

[HumsterMKX]

Housing is a personal achievement. Do you know how I have come to that conclusion? The game's director said it is. People really need to understand that. This game's housing is a gil sink and something you're are supposed to dedicate TIME towards getting it. If you want casual housing this is not the game for you.

Whao it is like saying ATMA farming takes great skill.

[xXRaineXx]

Achievement does not mean skill. If you think it does, then you got a lot to learn in life

Getting your Relic takes low to no skill, upgrading that Relic takes no skill, it takes no skill infusing materia into it. But upgrading your Relic to max upgrade is an ACHIEVEMENT, not many others can or will do this.

Dedication does not require skill, but perseverance and effort to reach your goal.

[Lazearus]

Housing is a personal achievement. Do you know how I have come to that conclusion? The game's director said it is. People really need to understand that. This game's housing is a gil sink and something you're are supposed to dedicate TIME towards getting it. If you want casual housing this is not the game for you.

But Yoshi also said this in the Letter from the Producer:

Q: I've noticed a lot of the systems recently introduced to the game require a lot of time to complete (The Hunt, Zodiac Weapons, etc.). Do you plan to focus on such time-consuming systems and features in the future?
A: Considering that both patches 2.2 and 2.3 introduced new systems to the game that require considerable amounts of time to complete, I understand how it may appear that the game's direction is steering toward overly time-consuming activities. However, just as I've mentioned in previous interviews, we consider FFXIV: ARR to be akin to a theme park, and we're working to provide a wide variety of activities for players to enjoy............... it may seem as though we're shifting focus toward time-consuming systems, but rest assured this is not the case, and we plan to strike a balance with party-based activities as we move forward.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...809-11-2014%29

How are theme park MMOs supposed to be grindy? And the buying of housing shouldn't be used as a gil sink. Expensive paintings, furniture, interactive decor sold from npcs are proper gil sinks.

And if you decide to get a house for bragging rights, how would people without access to gardening plots get their own gardening stuff (and other future content linked to housing) if they are gated behind the high gil prices or the lack of housing lots available?

If SE wants housing to be a personal achievement, they're gonna end up with many beautiful but unused houses eating up space on their servers. It's better if they make it more affordable and increase the variety of activities that can be done in there. That way the server space will be put to good use.

[Kallera]

Achievement does not mean skill. If you think it does, then you got a lot to learn in life

Getting your Relic takes low to no skill, upgrading that Relic takes no skill, it takes no skill infusing materia into it. But upgrading your Relic to max upgrade is an ACHIEVEMENT, not many others can or will do this.

Dedication does not require skill, but perseverance and effort to reach your goal.

Why does this need to be an expensive ball and chain around maintaining our subscriptions?

It's not combat, its not a title, I don't go around perusing other houses (I'm too busy "lazing about" with mining and df) , and It doesn't raise my dps or better myself as a character by getting one.

Why all the red tape and baggage just for your own place to sit down?

[HumsterMKX]

Achievement does not mean skill. If you think it does, then you got a lot to learn in life

Getting your Relic takes low to no skill, upgrading that Relic takes no skill, it takes no skill infusing materia into it. But upgrading your Relic to max upgrade is an ACHIEVEMENT, not many others can or will do this.

Dedication does not require skill, but perseverance and effort to reach your goal.

But for personal housing? As if they actually have enough for everyone in the first place.

[Vaer]

How are theme park MMOs supposed to be grindy? And the buying of housing shouldn't be used as a gil sink. Expensive paintings, furniture, interactive decor sold from npcs are proper gil sinks..

Theme parks have always been grindy, though.

Anyways, that quote looks like it is directed at battle content, not fluff.

Fluff in this game has always been time consuming and probably always will be if the people in charge of it don't change. Housing, mounts, minions, etc.

They decided to go with a "all gil at once" approach instead of what most MMOs do which is upkeep. In other MMOs with "open world" housing if you stop paying for it, your house is eventually foreclosed and someone else can use the spot. They shot themselves in the foot with this one. They thought of it automatically being removed due to inactivity but people didn't like that.