Ramuh Rant

[Risvertasashi]

Ehhhm.... While you can say it's not that hard of a DPS check, I've had more Ramuh EX groups fail the DPS check than fail handling the mechanics, or at least up to that point. Obviously phase 3 is less forgiving about accidentally thundering someone. But even people that can clear t8 can have problems with the DPS check so... sure it's doable, but it's no joke.

[Fendred]

Because Ramuh EX is a -really- hard fight? I legit have endgame raiding friends over on Excal who rank him as harder than Twintania.

I totally agree with your friends on this one, Brine. It practically demands a static team because of the coordination and communication requirements. It's not that a PUG couldn't do it, but they'd end up wiping a bunch of times before they start to coordinate well enough to get passed the grey arbiters (assuming they know the fight and aren't new to it).

Raiding kind of sucks in 2.3 for PUGs.

[One_Time]

Wow. Can't wait to get to Ramuh.

[Barboron]

Mhuah hah hah hah ha hah hah hah!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So many players screaming for "challenge" and "randomness" and spew their vitriol hate over "scripted" fights. And yet - when they are given "random", very few wants to touch it.

It's not random at all though, it's scripted. The only actual random thing about it is where the orbs drop, that's it really. But T7 has renauds sawn in random places, T6 has bulbs in random places, T9 has dragons in random places. But that's not enough to call a fight random.

The reason people can't do this is because it requires quick, clear, and concise communication. Something that people can have difficulty doing especially without the aid of a voice communication system/server like TS, mumble, vent etc.

[Colt47]

I've tried doing random PF groups for Ramuh and unless they use voice chat it becomes futile quite quickly to get anything done. People don't understand how much coordination T6-T9 and ramuh extreme are designed for. The original turns were no where near this level with the exception of Coil Turn 5.

[Xellos2099]

I've tried doing random PF groups for Ramuh and unless they use voice chat it becomes futile quite quickly to get anything done. People don't understand how much coordination T6-T9 and ramuh extreme are designed for. The original turns were no where near this level with the exception of Coil Turn 5.

Well, I think it is more of a trust issue for Ramuh EX. As long as order has been lay out it is not bad as long as everyone follow the direction on who break chao, tether and bait. Even then sometime accident happen and having healer lb 3 can be a godsend.

[Colt47]

Well, I think it is more of a trust issue for Ramuh EX. As long as order has been lay out it is not bad as long as everyone follow the direction on who break chao, tether and bait. Even then sometime accident happen and having healer lb 3 can be a godsend.

Again, simple concept but hard to execute. It's like how firefighter in Ulduar looks simple as heck on video until people step in and actually try to do it. The closest I've gotten to killing Ramuh is 10%, and then after that it's like every partial learning group (which are far and few between) can barely make it past the transition with the adds. That 10% run was using Team Speak.

[Wizhard]

Again, simple concept but hard to execute. It's like how firefighter in Ulduar looks simple as heck on video until people step in and actually try to do it. The closest I've gotten to killing Ramuh is 10%, and then after that it's like every partial learning group (which are far and few between) can barely make it past the transition with the adds. That 10% run was using Team Speak.

My memory might be fuzzy but i dont recall there being as much coordination required doing firefighter, they only thing iirc is to huddle together on new fire spawns and then stacking it. Make no mistake i dont call it an easy fight(ive done it when it was top content) but i would argue that it does not require as much coordination as Ramuh. Id even go as far as saying it would be easier to do firefighter without voice comms than Ramuh.