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    World PvP bad

    Instanced/event PvP good
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    Why are people so against having toggle-able world pvp? Worked flawlessly in WoW. Just have everyone set to default PvP-off, and those who have it toggled on will have green names instead of white (as an example) to indicate they have PvP enabled. Those who want to participate can, and those who don't want to don't need to worry about it.

    Both sides win. Rocket science.
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    Good discussion, I'm logging for lunch I'll get back with it in a few hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soda View Post
    Why are people so against having toggle-able world pvp? Worked flawlessly in WoW. Just have everyone by deafult be off, and those who have it toggled on will have green names instead of white (as an example) to indicate they have PvP enabled. Those who want to participate can, and those who don't don't need to worry about it.

    Both sides win. Rocket science.
    Not if the tweaks to PvP start affecting PvE gameplay. There's a definite loss for the PvE.
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    Open world PVP will never happen because the Japanese playerbase is strongly against it and it is strongly against SE's design philosophy for FF MMO's which is "Worlds of Players working together" not against each other.


    Also, Blizzards designers have stated multiple times that PVP was one of the worst beasts and problems they have with WoW. It constantly breaks the game so they have to always change things that had PVP not been present would never have become issues.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Not if the tweaks to PvP start affecting PvE gameplay. There's a definite loss for the PvE.
    The seems to be the main reason why those against PVP are so opposed to it. Maybe if someone can demonstrate how it is possible to have PVP without ruining the PVE experience it would be great. Maybe if the classes are well balanced from the get go it wouldn't be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Open world PVP will never happen because the Japanese playerbase is strongly against it and it is strongly against SE's design philosophy for FF MMO's which is "Worlds of Players working together" not against each other.


    Also, Blizzards designers have stated multiple times that PVP was one of the worst beasts and problems they have with WoW. It constantly breaks the game so they have to always change things that had PVP not been present would never have become issues.
    As if SE made any other mmos other then FF XI. FF XIV is still in the making as far as i am concerned....

    Yet WOW has the most popular mmo and probably one if not the most well balanced mmo out there.
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    Didn't Yoshi-P say somewhere in the JP forum that there won't be open world PVP?
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    The only reason it is ever "Balanced" is because they have to break the entire system down and start over one every year. They are constantly rebalancing the skills and spending time maintaining those systems that could be spent making quests and other things.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Didn't Yoshi-P say somewhere in the JP forum that there won't be open world PVP?
    I'm not sure if Yoshi ever has, but Tanaka and Komoto both said World PVP would never happen.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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