Hey Yoshi, you said personal housing "will be far more affordable."

[Eagleheart]

Hes aready come out and said that he was refering to the price point of 2.1 and honestly price isnt the problem. They just tacked on personal housing to the FC system trying to appease both sides which is the main problem.

Actually, I do not think it was an appeasement.

I believe that something with their real housing plans went catastrophically awry, rendering the system they'd been working on for months unusable, and that this was an emergency fallback measure, seen as preferable to pushing personal housing back again.

It is the single worst measure they could have taken. Difficulties cause frustration but are easily forgiven. Obfuscation like this leads to an impression of detachment and dissonance between client and business, and has inflamed tempers exponentially more than "shit, guys, there's a huge problem and it won't work T_T" would have. Speaking personally, I fully understand workplace difficulties and catastrophes, I would not be angry; the people who would be angry at a glaring technological impossibility are not worth worrying about anyways.

(<.< ) Honesty is always the best policy. It always has been, it will always continue to be.



At the moment, however, we can only go with what we know for facts;


- Dev Team has announced the system in question as "personal housing"

- Dev Team would need to multiply their housing wards by a factor of a hundred after the doubling set to occur in 2.4 to catch even a quarter of their playerbase with personal housing

- Dev Team regards criticisms levied at the personal housing system as a gil complaint, rather than an availability complaint

- Dev Team disregards player criticisms as being 'misunderstandings' to previously spoken advertisements/comments/announcements and so delegitimizes them

- Criticisms levied against unhappy players by players uninterested in/unaffected by the existant system amount to arguments regarding "entitlement" while avoiding addressing the problems brought up by the Stone Cold Bitch known as Mathematics



And so we are left to a wide field of anger and resignation because the loudest voices in the room, whether the bully pulpit or just the local bullies, are incapable of arguing facts instead of strawmen.

Therefore, let the circular firing squad continue, everyone. Come by our FC house on Hyperion, Ward 5, Plot 28 to acquire your collectable ammo tin (>o.o)>[] have a nice day.

[Nyxilin]

Yea it does feel abit weird doesnt it? And personally id have prefered them coming out and saying "Sorry personal housing will be pushed back" as well but oh well. :\

[Shougun]

Yea it does feel abit weird doesnt it? And personally id have prefered them coming out and saying "Sorry personal housing will be pushed back" as well but oh well. :\

Patch might have been well received if they did that lol, people would have focused on the little changes to zones (Rev Toll, Limsa), crap ton of QoL changes (for a small patch), mog quests, bug fixes... but no.

I'm hoping to see Yoshida say he is looking into other options XD, I don't really want to see an apology letter since I'd rather see them doing something. The system they've chosen is bad, and they were well aware of people's expectations in advance so they should have known this. What I hope from players though is that if Yoshida says he will look into fixing the issue, that players will be willing to wait. It will take a bit of time and money and any really meaningful change will not happen overnight, or even over the next patch.

May the devs be humble enough to be wrong and players patient enough to let player housing 1.0 become housing 2.0.. Hopefully.

[Souljacker]

Lets put the tin foil hat down, mm'kay? The notion that any company would go ahead and aim to reduce their revenue to a quarter is, well, insane.

The alternative is that they are just so incompetent and out of touch that they shouldn't be developing mmos. I was at least crediting them with doing this because they have some semblance of a plan, as "insane" as it may sound.

Either way, this is a colossal failure on their part both to understand expectations, and to deliver systems that work for the entirety of their paying customers.

[Valcro]

The only thing that makes a FFXIV house better than FFXI is that it can be seen and customized on the outside, to boot. That's a nice step up from mog houses. But I rather have:

1. free
2. that storage perks, because XIV is shaping up to be a "pay for more storage via retainers" service, which I don't disagree with, but FFXI was one dollar cheaper~and my beef here is I don't have 160 slots in a house of some kind yet. INNs are a miss when that storage chest is so restricted.
3. furnishings gave perks to various things in the game world, I'm sure the same could be done here in some aspect

If somebody rather have a pricey house that can be displayed to the rest of the community in a fancy ward system that no one will care about after the first time seeing your creation, hey it's great to be you right now. But at the end of the day it's just a pricey house in a fancy ward for the sake of other people seeing it, for those that can actually afford it(I can btw, and not gonna buy). It's usefulness, however, is pretty much zero, just like FC housing. MH was useful by design. Here it's practically an after thought because they went the INN route. Just doing it 'cause.

I don't have any particular beef with housing costing gil, for the record. I just don't get why this is such a debacle when they had a decade of experience in MMOing already. It's like it's their first MMORPG ever, right now. It's not hard. House. Free. Furnishings. Storage. Del mog. Summoning bell. Go.

There is no need to reinvent the wheel here. But if you're going to try anyway, it's a good idea to do it in such a way that EVERYONE has access to it. Otherwise, this thread here and a thousand more across the web, happens.

[Parz3val]

SE, if anything, just tell us you have plans to implement Actual Personal Housing soon.

Give us a privatized option, a cottage in the woods all to ourselves etc.

Make it cost only like 900k & be instanced.

For people who wish to be in a neighborhood with FC's, they can keep their FC-Personal Homes.

For the rest of us, give us a getaway home that's affordable & instanced so you don't run into stupid hardware issues.

A home in a secluded desert Oasis or on a cliff overlooking luscious Limsan pastures. Give us a number of options.

Get creative.

Just tell us now you intend to implement a LEGITIMATE Personal Housing System before everybody wastes their irl cash on RMT or spends their hard-earned Gil.

[Parz3val]

Also, if you're gonna clump us in with the FC Estates, then at least let us share a house with our friends if we wish to.

Co-owners, let us utilize the house together.

Makes since considering we're sharing zones with FC Populated Houses of the same manner & size.

[NyneAlexander]

I almost feel like they should have made personal housing part of a cash shop on the mogstation. Let people pay with gil or RL money, and directly fund the extra servers needed for this resource depleting system, all while circumventing 3rd party RMT.

[Maero]

I agree that personal housing should be instanced. I was saving up the gil for the fact that i thought i would have a nice little getaway place to enjoy.
Now i suppose i will just spend the gil on glam or Novus

[Parz3val]

My biggest issue is the impression we were getting something different.

FC Housing is FC Housing.

Yoshi drew a contrast between the two (FC & Personal) when he expressed how they'd be priced differently.

Give us more Personalization with Personal Housing, Yoshi.

Give us something different as an option.

It also severely waters down both forms of Housing, making FC Estates less special & Personal Housing not distinct or unique.