Hey Yoshi, you said personal housing "will be far more affordable."

[Whiteprincess]

I'm not upset about prices, it is nice to gain something with some effort. My problem is 500 fc members sharing the garden. I thought personal housing was going to fix the garden problem.

Nope ppl are still going to horde the FC gardens because of the lack of homes and/or gil to get one.

[Maxipep]

No my term is right, if you say he's a liar it is slander, if you write he is a liar it is Libel, the context I was using was in the form of what was said. Yoshi P could sue you for libel because of what has been written. Just because SE hasn't said anything on the matter still doesn't make them Liars, if you had bothered to read up on it you will see what was actually said, private housing will be considerably cheaper that FC housing, where does it mention anything about Price ?

[Maxipep]

I'm not upset about prices, it is nice to gain something with some effort. My problem is 500 fc members sharing the garden. I thought personal housing was going to fix the garden problem.

Nope ppl are still going to horde the FC gardens because of the lack of homes and/or gil to get one.

With 500 FC members why do you not split into smaller groups and have more FC houses ? you would still all be part of the same FC family

[Taliph]

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Considerably cheaper? The prices are equal to FC plots

9 months ago is when that quote happened, as an attempt to advertise the feature we have now, which is plainly not what he said it would be.

That would make for an easy counter suit for false advertising if yoshi or SE were to attempt a libel suit (this is a forum, it's all libel here, so yes your term was wrong.)

And in reply to your "workaround", why should an FC have to break up when SE could have done player housing in a way everyone could participate?

What was the housing team doing these past 9 months? Certainly not developing instanced player housing...

Please take your forum lawyering elsewhere, you obviously haven't read this thread, or if you have, comprehended it.

[Nalien]

On Free Company Gardens, I kinda wonder why they bothered with a plot when they could have... I don't know... Had a Green House option? Similar to the Stable, you just place it outside and everyone gets a Garden. Zone into it the same way you do Private Rooms and that gives everyone some Gardening space...

[Kallera]

No my term is right, if you say he's a liar it is slander, if you write he is a liar it is Libel, the context I was using was in the form of what was said. Yoshi P could sue you for libel because of what has been written. Just because SE hasn't said anything on the matter still doesn't make them Liars, if you had bothered to read up on it you will see what was actually said, private housing will be considerably cheaper that FC housing, where does it mention anything about Price ?

They! Cost! The! Same! That is not cheaper!

[Magis]

10.12 Changes to this User Agreement.
SQUARE ENIX reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change, modify, add to, supplement or delete any of the terms and conditions of this User Agreement or the way that the Game operates at any time.

Just because they have the right, doesn't exempt them from player backlash, nor does that make him immune to not being a liar. They could delete all your characters cause they are havin a giggle and be protected... doesn't mean it wouldn't piss off players or is not an asshole thing to do.

This... Actually reminded me of something...

Firstly, XIs Mog "Houses" let you stack effects off furniture to obtain a bonus (Moghancements? idr the name, it was silly). Edit: Found this.

Where is this in XIV? I specifically remember Yoshida talking about it pre-release, and how they'd be improving it so it wasn't tied to furniture... Think he called it Totems? Did this get changed into FC Actions at some point, or is it just another piece of content that's just vanished during production?

That's too bad they didn't reintroduce mog enhancements. I could see it working as a "personal fc action", though with a less effect obviously to keep the FC ones relevant.

[Loki]

For a project they were "working" on it since v1 what we have is really cheap and just copy pasted from FC housing, that's why i'm angry it's not really about the prices even if it's totally unfair to segregate servers like that, we pay all the same thing per month damn it and we don't care about RMT it's not players fault (honest players) if they exist we don't have to suffer for them.

Personnal housing was posponed again and again since v1 for many reasons but they said they were working on it and it's totally false. They implanted a rigid system, totally basic with none possible evolution for the player, none accomplishment feeling on long term, nothing. It's cheap for a 2013 game seriously.

But they look happy with it and proud of it that's the worst part of it.... well i have no more expectations for futur content, let's wait and see.

[faris]

Hilarious thought:

In 1.0, we complained that the retainer wards didn't have enough space for everyone to sell things using their retainers.
In 2.0, we complained that the housing wards don't have enough space for everyone to have a house.

edit: and these are the guys that are pushing a FC-based airship building system ahead. Hooboy.

[Nalien]

Hilarious thought:

In 1.0, we complained that the retainer wards didn't have enough space for everyone to sell things using their retainers.
In 2.0, we complained that the housing wards don't have enough space for everyone to have a house.

edit: and these are the guys that are pushing a FC-based airship building system ahead. Hooboy.

I was kind of hoping that the Housing Wards would end up effectively being 2.0s Market Wards... The concept of having your Retainer sitting outside your House Bazaaring stuff off just really appealed to me...