Hey Yoshi, you said personal housing "will be far more affordable."

[Liria]

Asking for resignation is really a bit too much. The producer made a wrong decision regarding the personal housing system, this is pretty much obvious to everyone. I just hope the development team see that they really made a bad move and start to think of measures to fix things out. That's what I really rope from the people who are in charge of this game that I came to like this much.

[Souljacker]

Asking for resignation is really a bit too much.

Actually, I think the JP's have the right of it this time. It takes a lot for the Japanese playerbase to revolt, but behavior like this is a clear indication that the producer has lost touch.

First, the player housing should not have been on the same scale as the Free Company housing. It devalues the achievement, for those who want to look at it that way.

Second, the prices for the individual and the group should not have been the same. If inflation is the reason the prices are the same as the FC prices, the FC prices should have gone up to adjust for inflation.

Third, the string of lies has to end. Ok, so it didn't work out the way you planned. Maybe there was something completely different in the works, but something was discovered that made that impossible and instead they decided to do some damage control and throw us *something*. That something is the worst thing they could have done, but the players would have a lot more understanding and sympathetic if YoshiP had come and said

"Listen, what we wanted to do isn't going to work\someone at the top canceled it\infrastructure limits it, so here is a workaround for the moment while we sort it all out".

No, he just dropped this on us like it was something new and exciting, only a handful of players can participate, and the NA playerbase is defending him?

I'm with the JPs on this one. Between the Frontlines problems, Atma complaints, Hunts problems, Scripted battles, Lag problems, and now the Housing fiasco not to mention the apparent refusal to open a test server to catch some of this stuff before it's live - it's a pattern. It's not just one thing he's messed up - it's things he has willfully and systematically implemented that are completely broken.

[Liria]

I'm really frustrated with all of this personal housing fiasco and agree with almost all of your points. I was really "looking forward to it", even saved a bit of money to buy a small housing and saved furnitures to use on it. I understand the player's rage over this one, I just can't think this off an legit argument to ask someone to go and loose his job, even more as I see the work the guy and development team made to bring a dead game to live again. I just don't want my rage to blind me out of the good things from before ( and its not easy, this personal housing is really table-flipping ).

I only hope and want that they take things into consideration and fix things out, and see that all the rage can't go unnoticed and that they do need to take care of this issue. No one is happy with the system as it is now. =[

And yes, the system he dropped at us is faaar from exciting, really.

[Teirshin]

I understand the player's rage over this one, I just can't think this off an legit argument to ask someone to go and loose his job

But in Japan.... they'll scuttle someone's entire career for life over something like this if the PR backlash is loud enough.

Thats the mindset and how they are brought up. Its been that way for centuries. We may not understand it, but to them, its the norm.

I'd be amazed if Yoshi hasnt already had a meeting or two with his bosses where he's bowing as far over as he can begging for forgiveness for the bad PR that SE is getting over this. His career could be on the line.

Time will tell.....

[Kardayel]

I I see the work the guy and development team made to bring a dead game to live again..

The problem is that resurrection is more Frankenstein's creature than Lazarus...

We've patched up the rotting corpse with parts of other corpse but know we need make it walk... and the logic is: we need a heart? put a bike pump, it's the same!

[Eagleheart]

*rests hand on chin*

Humanity is most closely related to sharks, I think. Toss a drop of blood in the water, and watch the frenzy begin.

Quite disturbing, really. >_>

[Teirshin]

Asking for resignation is really a bit too much. The producer made a wrong decision regarding the personal housing system, this is pretty much obvious to everyone. I just hope the development team see that they really made a bad move and start to think of measures to fix things out. That's what I really rope from the people who are in charge of this game that I came to like this much.

Thing is, this is Japan, and they dont follow the same mindset we do in the US.

If Yoshi loses enough respect (aka "face") in the public eye, SE would not hesitate to can him if he didnt step down in shame on his own.

SE needs to preserve its image, and if Yoshi tarnishes that, his career is pretty much over.

When its not just the US players looking for blood in the water.... you know he screwed up big time, and the Japanese players are apparently pissed off to no end atm.

[Mattlex]

Thing is, this is Japan, and they dont follow the same mindset we do in the US.
If Yoshi loses enough respect (aka "face") in the public eye, SE would not hesitate to can him if he didnt step down in shame on his own.
SE needs to preserve its image, and if Yoshi tarnishes that, his career is pretty much over.
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It's pretty much a case of Yoshi P/Development team being only as good as the last patch released. All the awesomeness and miracles performed before mean nothing in the eyes of the majority of the player base and the stakeholders. It's a shame really because there is so much good in this game and they have really turned things around since 1.0 but where they fail catastrophically is simply down to not managing expectations correctly which is a key aspect for any service being continually successful.

[Cidel]

It's pretty much a case of Yoshi P/Development team being only as good as the last patch released. All the awesomeness and miracles performed before mean nothing in the eyes of the majority of the player base and the stakeholders. It's a shame really because there is so much good in this game and they have really turned things around since 1.0 but where they fail catastrophically is simply down to not managing expectations correctly which is a key aspect for any service being continually successful.

I have to disagree, somewhat.

While I do admit that the dev team has released some gems in ARR thus far, where they are falling short time and again is how they let their recreational content, or "leisure" (not counting seasonal events) and customization become gated behind money sinks and whether or not your FC owns a house (which people are saying is a problem due to housing ward shortages). Nobody seemed to appreciate AF dyeing being tied to multiple 3-star synths. There was noticeable outrage at Chocobo stables being FC-housing only. The devs have gotten somewhat out of hand with how much gardening has become a staple for things like furniture and the only way to customize your chocobo's color (let's not forget cleaning chocobo stables used to rely on gardening as well). Glamour prisms are probably the way they are due to programing limitations, but you can't deny that it feels cumbersome and tedious as a system just to allow you to change your cosmetic appearance. And now "personal housing" feels so rushed out the door just so they could say "we didn't break our promise, personal housing was released before 2.4," while outraging the playerbase with implementation and availability.

The playerbase has every right to be apprehensive about how the Gold Saucer will be implemented and what kind of monetary hoops we have to jump through just to get access to it, or what a huge let-down it can potentially be. And you are right about expectations Mattlex; this patch has solidified my belief that anything the devs try and "hype" up will likely be terrible in implementation or "reserved" for the incredibly rich ("due to programming limitations, the Gold Saucer can only fit 200 people per server, so access passes will cost 65 million gil on a first-come-first-serve basis")

And I do bet that the devs are hoping Shiva and Rogue/Ninja in 2.4 avert the players' attention from how little "twice as much" housing wards is likely going to do to placate everyone on personal FC housing. Of course, those with no interest in their own customizable house are probably just fine with that.

[Risvertasashi]

If there are any moderators still reading... can you please close this thread?

I feel what needed to be said has been said (several times over).