Hey Yoshi, you said personal housing "will be far more affordable."

[Coris]

Well, I too think, that setting up such prices encourages people to buy from RMT.

Then again I also think, that there are some super rich players but also those who only have stuff to sell from their ventures or the money they earned through the mainstory questline which isn't really that much.

To add to my previous post:

I still don't feel like competing with FCs which have been hoping and waiting to get a small plot for their group of players/friends. Personally I'd feel as if I'd taken something from them.
Just this weekend I was talking with a friend who said, they wished for buying a small house but only spaces in Ul'dah were left and this didn't appeal to them. Now I don't really want to know what they might be thinking when they log in this night and see all small wards being sold out again... Even in Ul'dah.

[Niwashi]

Although unreliable you could technically sell your plot's availability. Relinquishing your plot at a specific time while someone readies to purchase it.

Some games have implemented a somewhat randomized time interval between release of a house and making it available again, in order to combat this problem. Hopefully SE would do the same, but given how horribly they've managed everything else here, I doubt they will.

in order to stimulate the in-game economy after Patch 2.1, we increased the methods in which you can obtain gil and the average amount of gil all players possess increased severalfold.

I think you're basing way too much on the average amount of gil when you should instead be looking at the median amount. The average is way overblown by a few outliers who have chosen gil-gathering to be the sole focus of thier gameplay.

[Colino]

However, reading this again, I realize that this statement is extremely unclear. Also, because I wrote this quickly to try to quell the uneasiness at the time, I ended up causing even more problems for everyone.

That's fine, but leaving that statement completely unaltered for 9 months was irresponsible.

If the dev-team knew things would change, why not at least tell us in advance? To avoid the negative feedback they're getting now anyway?

Look, I don't even care for Personal Housing at all. In fact I didn't even get a personal room when I had the chance, but I do disagree with how this was handled. It's not even the decision itself, it's just this need to never tell us anything at all and then try to justify it afterwards. Explain these things to us BEFOREHAND and see how many less people complain. Sure you'll get the usual amount of outcry but not nearly at this level.

Also, no shit the average amount of gil has increased. Everyone was saving up for the personal housing YOU said would be affordable.

Trust me, had they known in advance how much it would cost they would not even try to hoard that much gil.

Just make personal housing an instanced area with a small house/garden which we can upgrade the size of when we have enough money for it.

That would require some effort. No sorry we'll just re-use all those lots which we didn't have enough of to begin with. GG.

[Risvertasashi]

Unfortunately, I don't think you should be calling out anyone.

The prices are indeed correct. It is indeed close to 800k gil in TRUE VALUE

Yoshi never said 800k. (or 850k) Anywhere. Ever.

Apprently they are very affordable the small houses at least. If you look at any legacy or high pop server the small houses for the entire server were gone in like 30 min to about 2 hours on almost every legacy server. That is a fast sell out rate meaning they could of been more expensive if they were going to sell out in 30 min.

Mine was sold out within 13 minutes or so. Some FCs bought them up, some big name crafters I recognized from market board activity and such.

But what I really like is how at first FC housing prices weren't something the average player was supposed to afford alone, we're supposed to work together. Now suddenly it's so cheap and reasonable for the individual*.

* As long as you're a master crafter that spends hours each day working the markets and has been playing the game from the start.

[ExKage]

but I do disagree with how this was handled. It's not even the decision itself, it's just this need to never tell us anything at all and then try to justify it afterwards. Explain these things to us BEFOREHAND and see how many less people complain. Sure you'll get the usual amount of outcry but not nearly at this level.

This.

They have a habit of doing these "we planned to survey it... then we decided to stop the implementation of more echo etc... and didn't tell you until AFTER the planned drop!"

[Colino]

Just go back a day later and read what you've posted, read the replies, and freakin' say something if people are reading it wrong. Eventually, you might get the hang of catching things that could easily be misinterpreted before they're posted and find a different way to say them.

And for me that's the crux of the argument. If you knew you were being misinterpreted, say so earlier. Not AFTER the negative feedback starts because you need an excuse of some sort.

[Lemuria]

What's funny is that despite the fact I'm both a crafter AND a 1.0 player I've never even seen a million gil at any one time, let alone 5mil. Maybe I'm alone in this, but it seems a very lofty price for a single player to fork out for personal housing.

[Yahavage]

It's not even about the money for me. I feel geniunely cheated out of content. I can afford a house. Point is I didn't want an FC house or indeed a house within an FC ward.

[Tsuwu]

Wow.

I'm literally in disbelief.
People are unsubbing over this?

Childish.

Likely the kid who demands to be player 1, and when they can't be, they take their game and go home.


I try not to be too terribly vocal on these issues, but seriously, do you guys not recall how scarce Gil was when he made the announcement back in December?
I had -maybe- 1.2 million, and I manipulate shard markets all the time.
I have just under 20 million Gil now. I don't try any harder. I don't put in a ton of extra time versus 2.0 working the boards.

As an individual player, I even see this.
When roulettes and endless myth/seal mats and gimmie gimmie gear made two star crafts easy as pie to HQ, Gil just began raining from the heavens.

Inflation is real in any economy.
Would you sue Sears because they advertised a radio in 1950 for 7$, and now it's 30$?

Just use context, drop the QQ, and either save your Gil or wait until you can afford it.
Christ.

[Roris]

The reason why Free Company houses and personal houses are in the same areas■

The biggest reason is to ensure the effective utilization of land. FFXIV is entering a stable period and the amount of newly created Free Companies is gently declining, therefore the demand for new Free Company houses will also decline. Additionally, with expansions to the land sale feature, after the demand for land has been fulfilled there will gradually be land openings in the wards.

On the other hand, when it comes to personal housing, with the constant increase in the amount of gil everyone possesses, as time passes the demand for personal housing will increase and a large amount of open land will be necessary.

If we were to separate Free Company housing and personal housing into different areas, in the event that Free Company land opens up I believe we would then receive requests asking to make it possible to build personal houses on those plots. So in order to balance the two we made it possible to purchase land in the same housing areas and feel this will allow for land to be utilized efficiently.

Kinda sounds like they're already seeing or at least preparing and expecting a substantial drop in the player base and more importantly in subscriptions, enough so the smaller FCs start disbanding and plots start opening up. I guess it is to be expected with these kinds of WoW clones and with the korean launch coming up.

People unsub form games they don't like anymore and take their business elsewhere, more news at 11. Remember, always vote with your wallet.