"To Improve PvP game balance, the ability Cleric Stance will no longer be usable"

[DenebPunkin]

Congratulations FFXIV community, for taking away other people's fun just because you're having slightly less of it.

Now you sound like the whiner because you no longer have the elephant that can stomp on ants. "buuuuuuut mom... I dont like being on equal terms with the opposition".

Even though I think the healer classes are a bit too OP in PVP, the removal of CS is a bit much. They should have either made it so you lose your ability to heal while it was on, or further reduce your ability to heal while in it.. instead of just downright abolishing it.

[Klive]

Let's get real. Can a healer rely on a paladin to cover them in PvP? Hell no.

Yes, healers should be able to be 100% independent in a team based activity. Teamwork and strategy should not be a focal point in group PvP at all.

EDIT: Some people can't tell I'm being sarcastic...

[Copestetic]

Let's get real. Can a healer rely on a paladin to cover them in PvP? Hell no.

WTB Premade.

[Shake0615]

Yes, healers should be able to be 100% independent in a team based activity. Teamwork and strategy should not be a focal point in group PvP at all.

"Should" being the operative word. But they can't.

EDIT: Some people can't tell I'm being sarcastic...

Lol this is the second time I've failed to read your sarcasm this week. Poe's law at work I guess. Actually, I just totally misread it.

[tehomegaking]

If you mean that you're dying to a WHM in a 1v1 situation, then you're just plain bad.

Or you just suck at whm.

[Shake0615]

WTB Premade.

Lol. You know what's funny? Let's look at two threads and two responses that are all over this community

Thread 1: ZOMG NERF HEALERZ!
Poster 1: If you can't down a healer alone, then maybe you should run with a premade or burst with another player.
Poster 2: What? I shouldn't be required to rely on anyone else to take down one person! That's ridiculous! That's not balance! Screw teamwork!!!

Thread 2: Good riddance Cleric Stance!
Poster 1: Yeah, you can't rely on another teammate to be one of your few sources of survival.
Poster 2: WTB Premade.

Thanks for the consistency, FFXIV community. Glad to know we're holding all other classes to the same high standards as healers.

[KingAhmoseTheFirst]

That was one of my specialties being an aggressive healer.. Even though I dont like this idea I think in Frontlines it not that much of a big deal it will just take long to 1v1 a player.. But where it will really hurt me as SCH is in the Wolves Den because the battles are that much more intense and aggressive.. So yea thanx SE =/

[YuriRamona]

This is gold. If they dont run away to safety... because WHY should a healer run away to safety right.. I mean clearly they dont wanna win anymore. DPS have a skill to heavy and remove sprint, but a healer can just throw their Invisi Shield up and regain enuff TP to sprint away again. A competent DPS against a Competent Healer results in the healer coming out victorious more often then not. This means one class has a clear advantage over the other.

I'm having an incredibly difficult time understanding what you're saying.

I'm saying that if a healer doesn't run away, they will die.

You're saying that a healer will always try to run away. Yes, I agree. And yes, they are almost always successful in doing that.

I don't see your point. I don't think you have one.

Read the rest of my post. Imbalance is built into PvP roles. It's not a bad thing. If you don't want some roles to be better than other roles in various situations, then PvP might as well be level sync to 1 and everyone only gets to use auto-attack, because that'd be the only way to achieve true parity in roles.

Just because someone's a healer and you're a DPS doesn't mean it should be an auto-victory if you catch them solo.

Or you just suck at whm.

WHM has no tools to defeat anyone solo. What are they going to do, kite you to death while spamming Aero for a whopping 85 potency every 2.5 seconds?

Stuns/silence cut Equanimity's utility in half. Another well-placed stun/silence breaks Surecast. If the WHM magically manages to land 3 repose and 3 binds, that's 6 Stone IIs. Only the first Holy provides enough delay to cast a follow-up Stone II.

So yes, if the target does absolutely nothing to stop a WHM from casting, then they may just do enough damage to kill them.

[YuriRamona]

Yes, healers should be able to be 100% independent in a team based activity. Teamwork and strategy should not be a focal point in group PvP at all.

EDIT: Some people can't tell I'm being sarcastic...

If healers were defenseless or lacked utility outside of a group context in Frontlines, we'd see way fewer healers inside Frontlines.

[Divinemight]

If healers were defenseless or lacked utility outside of a group context in Frontlines, we'd see way fewer healers inside Frontlines.

I heard same statement when Blizzard applying 30% healing reduction on the PvP zone. Nope, healers are adopted to it.