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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexxuk View Post
    From what I gather, there has been that demand on the JP forum and as we know that SE listen to their Japanese playerbase.............
    I'm not completely surprised if this is the case.

    If you ask me, the gaming world would win. The guy's passionate about his work and could do a lot for other games. Being stuck in XIV is just tossing talent away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    If you ask me, the gaming world would win. The guy's passionate about his work and could do a lot for other games. Being stuck in XIV is just tossing talent away.
    Disagree. Every developer wants to work for Valve, I don't think Valve would employ him, their principle is "the gamers are your bosses" so build their games to be fun for the gamer, Yoshi isn't really showing a gamer centric stance, especially when it comes to basic stuff like housing, he is absolutely mistaken which is why they kept quiet about the much desired feature of housing, they knew it would kick up a storm, if you know something you implement is going to annoy the vast majority of your gamers (and isn't about balance or a required feature) you don't put it in, you get a work around, so no, as a director Yoshi has failed.
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    They were talking about increasing the servers in the last LL... and how it came down to a judgement call on Yoshi...

    well Yohsi it is time to redeem yourself and drop that S ton of cash yall have been making and upgrade your (obviously gonna need it sometime soon) servers!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexxuk View Post
    Disagree. Every developer wants to work for Valve, I don't think Valve would employ him, their principle is "the gamers are your bosses" so build their games to be fun for the gamer, Yoshi isn't really showing a gamer centric stance, especially when it comes to basic stuff like housing, he is absolutely mistaken which is why they kept quiet about the much desired feature of housing, they knew it would kick up a storm, if you know something you implement is going to annoy the vast majority of your gamers (and isn't about balance or a required feature) you don't put it in, you get a work around, so no, as a director Yoshi has failed.
    I don't think you even begin to comprehend his position and the difficulties you'd face.

    To put it in meme terms, one does not simply "please all players".

    FFXIV has to balance long term design, physical resources, multiple player views that consistently collide between them (have you ever read this forum before?) all this while having a limited schedule of fast release cycles. Handling an RPGMMO isn't even close to handling an offline game or a lobby game and as much as I like Valve (for more reasons than their games. I like their involvement in pushing game development to higher grounds) things are never binary.

    The current implementation of personal housing is bad, this is undeniable. If you ask me, it should've been an instanced room and be done with this bullshit. If you wanted a real house, get a FC.

    You, however, don't understand the problems that may have led to them taking the current route and as such you cannot understand if he has "failed as a director". A director's job is not only to make right choices, you see; sometimes, it's about making sure you choose the lesser evil.

    You see, the best thing a developer can do is listen to its players.

    The worst thing a developer can do is do what their players ask for.

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    EDIT: If you think I'm white knighting this game, you are wrong. I barely play it and I don't even really like its gameplay that much (I play because a friend really enjoys it, so I'm tagging along for the ride). That, however, doesn't make me incapable of appreciating the work Yoshida and his team has done and keeps doing.
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    Last edited by Iriadysa; 09-16-2014 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    I barely play it and I don't even really like its gameplay that much. That, however, doesn't make me incapable of appreciating the work Yoshida and his team has done and keeps doing.
    I understand your point of view. I hope you understand that people do really like its gameplay very much. It's because they love the game, they now feel ignored.

    I couldn't care less about housing. I do care about what people want to keep them in the game. Whatever floats their bubble. It's more fun when there are lots of people around doing all kinds of stuff.

    I appreciate their work and I also praise them even when we get a minor QoL change which often should have been there in the first place, better late than never right? I can't appreciate the ongoing dev comments where the console or server limitations cause trouble for them to ajdust, implement, rework or change things. So yes, the best thing a developer can do is listen to their players. We don't know if they listen when there is no solid feedback other than said limitation. We already know that story, give us the real story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    I understand your point of view. I hope you understand that people do really like its gameplay very much. It's because they love the game, they now feel ignored.

    I couldn't care less about housing. I do care about what people want to keep them in the game. Whatever floats their bubble. It's more fun when there are lots of people around doing all kinds of stuff.

    I appreciate their work and I also praise them even when we get a minor QoL change which often should have been there in the first place, better late than never right? I can't appreciate the ongoing dev comments where the console or server limitations cause trouble for them to ajdust, implement, rework or change things. So yes, the best thing a developer can do is listen to their players. We don't know if they listen when there is no solid feedback other than said limitation. We already know that story, give us the real story.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo
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