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  1. #61
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    cryptic_angel's Avatar
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    Ebon Duskfall
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    Cactuar
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I dont get it...
    It sounds like you are fine with coil weapons but at same time you are talking about increasing "value" of novus, doesnt it sound a bit odd?
    Do you own a Novus? I wonder...


    Coil is NOT the hardest content in game, and from hardest content you just get a titel... have you already beaten savage coil?
    Yes, I have a novus, You may look up a my main if you like, Lucius Eventide on cactaur.

    I would have liked novus to have more value, by making unweathered weapons harder to get. While you are right that savage coil is the hardest content in the game, a player should not get the strongest weapon in the game by doing a daily casual grind that you can do half asleep.
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  2. #62
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I don't think most people understand the difference between watching a fight and experiencing a fight. You should not use a video or a guide as an example in the first place! Most videos are kill or mechanics videos and show you the almost best case scenario of the fight. It's very misleading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Coil is NOT the hardest content in game, and from hardest content you just get a titel... have you already beaten savage coil?
    Not to sound rude, but you just contradicted yourself. Savage coil and normal coil are very different in terms of difficulty, but they are both still classified as coil at the end of the day. When second coil was initially released, savage coil never existed. Also, both drop the same loot.

    Anyway, I think coil weapons should remain the "best" weapon upon release with other weapons catching up later. Otherwise, what incentive would there be to do coil? It's considered the hardest content for a reason.
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  3. #63
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    Miunih Evans
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Coil is NOT the hardest content in game, and from hardest content you just get a titel... have you already beaten savage coil?
    Yes, and got a novus. It's still a handout.
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    Lalafell for life! o.o/

  4. #64
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    Yes, I have a novus, You may look up a my main if you like, Lucius Eventide on cactaur.

    I would have liked novus to have more value, by making unweathered weapons harder to get. While you are right that savage coil is the hardest content in the game, a player should not get the strongest weapon in the game by doing a daily casual grind that you can do half asleep.
    The problem is that unless you are doing t9 or savage coil You don't need the strongest weapons. in fact certain fights punish you for doing to much damage.
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  5. #65
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    Jabbahutt Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Raiding in this game requirest time to memorize each fight up to reflex level and then you just wait for other 7 ppl to do same thing - memorize each fight up to reflex level. Really.
    Stop being elitist. You are not specal.
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  6. #66
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jabbahutt View Post
    Raiding in this game requirest time to memorize each fight up to reflex level and then you just wait for other 7 ppl to do same thing - memorize each fight up to reflex level. Really.
    Stop being elitist. You are not specal.
    Neither are you, you don't deserve extra money for doing less work. get over your sense of entitlement.
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  7. #67
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    Neither are you, you don't deserve extra money for doing less work. get over your sense of entitlement.
    You aren't doing less work to get a Novus/Nexus/Whateverus... you are doing DIFFERENT work.
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  8. #68
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    Veera Aurora
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    grinding =/ hard
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    You aren't doing less work to get a Novus/Nexus/Whateverus... you are doing DIFFERENT work.
    Again, when you factor the time for progression, the effort in making pots, the cost of making food, talking with other raiders about strategy, and include the fact that bad RNG could keep you from getting a weapon, the time sinks are not the same.

    You can finish a novus from the atma form in about one month. Most statics did not have t8 down after one month of being in SCoB. Raiding is just not a one hour a week farm fest, it takes a lot of time to get to that point where SCoB only takes an hour to finish.

    Also, people who do different work get paid differently.

    The guy at Taco Bell makes less than me but I am sure we both work similar hours every week. Different work should not equate to equal pay.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    Neither are you, you don't deserve extra money for doing less work. get over your sense of entitlement.
    Omg yor are so wrong. I can pay for t9 clear and get my win within 10 min.
    Result: mercs were working their ass out learning coil, i was doing other fun things. And we got same rewards
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