Hm, i115 Nexus upgrade has me worried for Third Coil.

[cryptic_angel]

who cares? just wait 3 months after 2.4 and you can get max ilvl for derp style grinds.

What work? Grinding mobs or easy dungeons for materia? Grinding fates over and over for ATMA? None of the relic quest line is a challenge outside of the time investment. And I'm sorry, taking a long time is not comparable to something that takes a fair amount of effort or more.



Yes, because everyone who does T9, pays for it. Please, try again.



Stop ignoring the work that went into learning the turns and getting to T9 in the first place. It's the same pit everyone falls into.

It's pointless to argue with people on this forum. Only a small fraction of them actually raid and they don't get it. You can see from the "15 min" run statements are just proof positive that most players here don't get what progression is.

[VicViperion]

who cares? just wait 3 months after 2.4 and you can get max ilvl for derp style grinds.



It's pointless to argue with people on this forum. Only a small fraction of them actually raid and they don't get it. You can see from the "15 min" run statements are just proof positive that most players here don't get what progression is.

No, I completely "get" what it is. I've done it myself. You just don't seem to understand there isn't much to it. You learn the mechanics (or go on youtube, like 90% of the player base). And then...Thats it. Congrats. If you can perform the simple task of memorization, you'll win. There's nothing to it beyond that other than not trying to waltz in there undergeared. You're trumping it up as something far greater than it is.

[ispano]

No, I completely "get" what it is. I've done it myself. You just don't seem to understand there isn't much to it. You learn the mechanics (or go on youtube, like 90% of the player base). And then...Thats it. Congrats. If you can perform the simple task of memorization, you'll win. There's nothing to it beyond that other than not trying to waltz in there undergeared. You're trumping it up as something far greater than it is.

Then why have so few beaten it? No, really, why?

[Noahlimits]

No, I completely "get" what it is. I've done it myself. You just don't seem to understand there isn't much to it. You learn the mechanics (or go on youtube, like 90% of the player base). And then...Thats it. Congrats. If you can perform the simple task of memorization, you'll win. There's nothing to it beyond that other than not trying to waltz in there undergeared. You're trumping it up as something far greater than it is.

But you haven't cleared t9. How have you "done it yourself"? Unless you're on an alt, which would be really convenient considering your statement on t9 being so "easy".