1.18 Bittersweet.

[SuzakuCMX]

I remember him saying "leves are for solo/casual."

Also party grinding is making a comeback.

[Kensei]

I remember him saying "leves are for solo/casual."

Also party grinding is making a comeback.

So we can only solo 8 times every 36 hours? That's their alternative to forced groups? No, thanks.

[Kiroh]

did you guys try it out solo before posting in here? I'm solo/duo player myself but I'm not going to complain till I tried it out first so just wanted to see if the opinions in here are from trying the game after the patch out.

If it's really that bad... hope wife don't get disappointed lol.

I have tried it out, I'm seriously disappointed. You CAN solo things, but only one at a time and only if you're willing to sit around for 2 or 3 minutes between fights doing nothing.

I'm sorry but if I want to play a game that forces me to group just to kill things I'll go back to XI. At least that game has content worth grouping for.

I'm done with XIV, not going back to XI, and going to be a lot more critical of games I invest time into in the future.

[Wynn]

I'm gonna go with Reinheart here and state people should actually give it a fair shake, and try it out, before we cry doom.

[chime85]

So we are being forced to group again just like in XI. I got CON and THM to 20 these past couple of days to be able to solo decently and it was for nothing. Did you see that MP cost? Aside from mages I don't think we can solo anymore.

Also I want to say that I feel for THMs. You guys got nerfed to absurd levels. I understand SE is again forcing a healer in PTs and getting CON back into the picture but really this is the classical scenario were Devs go overboard and take a class from OP to below average in a single patch instead of gradually adjusting.

We'll see how this plays out when we get to try this but for now it's a bittersweet feeling.

Without trying to get your heckles up, this IS an MMORPG. Part of the genre of this game is multiplayer. I do understand your frustration to some extent. Being someone who prefers to solo, alot has been taken away from you.

But I ask, why so shy with teaming up with other players? I'm sure even in your solo career you have bumped into the odd player or two? These are, like you, people behind a keyboard.

I imagine alot of it is to do with time limitations or frustrations on waiting for groups to for. I can understand that. No matter how "hardcore" someone is, they WILL get annoyed with waiting. But with that in mind, how would you like to make changes to the game to reduce group waiting time? They have changed the group findr somewhat. With luck, that will make things easier. I for one want to test this seach option to see if its any good. I truely hope it is.

Back to topic tho. when doing the odd leve quest, why not branch out and make a friend or two? soulds silly at first, but with a solid friends list, you will have no issues forming a group for larger tasks such as the newly released dungeons

I am about to create a caracter on Besaid, i hope to see you in world. Dont know what my name is yet, but ill drop you a line

x

[LuxLex]

I have tried it out, I'm seriously disappointed. You CAN solo things, but only one at a time and only if you're willing to sit around for 2 or 3 minutes between fights doing nothing.

I'm sorry but if I want to play a game that forces me to group just to kill things I'll go back to XI. At least that game has content worth grouping for.

I'm done with XIV, not going back to XI, and going to be a lot more critical of games I invest time into in the future.

This is exactly what it looked like it was going to be for me. All my friends quit XIV because it was so boring, so when I did on the rare rare time log on, it was nice to be able to at least solo a little bit.

The way they have ruined mages is pretty much it for me. I had high hopes for this patch and I am dissapoint.

[Jabo]

I like your optimism but you gotta read between thee lines. The game got a lot less solo friendly. You'd be right if we could do infinite amount of leves but that's not the case.

Also you are saying we should use Second Wind and Bloodbath? So we can't use WS because we gotta keep using Second Wind to heal? But wait a minute we needed the TP to use WS with Bloodbath to make the healing passable! Yep, good luck with that!

1. You're still playing an MMO. It isn't supposed to be for solo playing.
It can be casual/solo friendly thou and this is what the leves are for. Solo grinding was never a decent way to level up in this game. Duo was twice as fast and linking leves was even way faster than that.

2.
Second Wind is like 250TP and it was even pre 1.18 better than Cure/Sacrifise (no casting time).
And I mean really? U can't use Bloodbath efficient because the 250TP won't let you use your WS anymore. Really?
I play for an eternity with Raging Strike, Ferocity, Bloodbath + WS Makro and you gain 1000tp way faster than in one minute, so you always have to wait for bloodbath.
If you can't generate 1250TP in 60 seconds you're doing something very wrong.

[DAOWAce]

You level 50's realize there's people that aren't level 50, right? You realize some people aren't in linkshells or know ANYBODY in the game, right? You realize people prioritize their lives and get online for quick solo play, right? You realize that some people prefer solo play, and it's viable in many MMORPGs (but not to the level of being able to solo all content, that's stupid, and not what we're talking about), right?

The MP change is too much for solo players, especially those leveling up below level 30.

[Wynn]

I really don't believe soloing is going to change all that much. Which, by the way, people who are posting about "MMOs mean grouping": 1. No they don't. 2. This game has always been about casual and solo friendly play. It is the game's backbone and as such it will always be a concern whether you like it or not.

And to defend Kensei, he groups a lot so please don't categorize him as a party hating soloer because that could not be further from the truth.

That being said, yes, the cost of the cures are high, but how many times do you honestly need to heal yourself while killing a mob? Two, maybe three times? Personally, I find I'm able to fight multiple leve mobs at once and get away with no cure or 1 cure before they all die. Maybe that's cause I'm an archer, I don't know, but I really think It is gonna be ok guys.

[Emerson]

I think people are jumping the gun here a little bit. Now, I admit that I haven't played with the 1.18 patch yet because it's still downloading, and at the rate it's downloading I probably wont be able to play tonight. I usually play alone, it's rare for me to actually find a party to play with because when I'm on I always find people 10+ levels larger or smaller than me. I run 3 char all on separate servers all different starting cities, so I would doubt it's the "normal" excuse. Anyway, now I'll be restarting THIS char on the Besaid server starting in Gridania. If people want to join me, on weekdays I play between 8:00pm - 11:00pm on weekends I play most afternoons. Look for me, if you want to party let me know. but i'm going to keep playing solo until the same no longer lets me do so with ease.

Name: Nina Falcon
Server: *changing to Besaid server*
Starting City: Gridania