Hm, i115 Nexus upgrade has me worried for Third Coil.

[Shioban]

Well, considering it sounds like this i115 upgrade will be more than just an ilevel bump, there are going to be a lot of people who have better weapons than the HA stuff as they have better secondary stats melded. A i115 Stardust Rod Nexus with SSPD/DET will be better than the HA Staff with SSPD/CRIT.

Considering that 2.3 is coming to a close and the next tier of weapons will be available, it really won't be a problem for long.


And you're correct!

Currently even some Novus weapons are almost on par with a HA weapon, but the base-damage of the HA weapons make up for it.


As in the past with the relic upgrades, it'll be good, but it'll never be that good.

[wicked-one]

What concerns me is the way to upgrade it obviously...

"A weapon’s soul attunement level will rise by a set amount determined by the activity being performed."

I fear right now, there is stuff coming like in desynthing... "F.A.T.E Suceeded" -- + 0,37 Points.... "Cleared SCoB" + 0,77 Points...

Stuff up to 300 Points ^^...

oh boy, im not lucky with this

[Sessurea]

They probably were gonna do another atma ( new skin, same stats ) but decided to go halfway. Which I'm pleased about.

[VicViperion]

These weapons were ALWAYS intended to be a 'catch-up'.

They will always be underpowered compared to that of the next set of "top-tier" raiding weapons, as that's the development teams ideal.


Why would they ever make these weapons equal to the top-tier or even close to that, it almost defeats the purpose of doing the raid, the idea being "I've completed the final stretch of this raid content, and received my powerful weapon as a reward".

That's the general idea, that's how it's always going to be.

Funny, because originally, Relics were on par with Coil weapons. It was the hardcore raiders whining that changed that. And I for one think this needs to be reversed. it takes far more work, and effort, and time, to attain a maxed out relic nowadays (along with a literal fountain of money), than it does to learn SE's song and dance routine to walk through Coil. Coil gear shouldn't be outclassing a Relic, ever.

[hallena]

What concerns me is the way to upgrade it obviously...

"A weapon’s soul attunement level will rise by a set amount determined by the activity being performed."

I fear right now, there is stuff coming like in desynthing... "F.A.T.E Suceeded" -- + 0,37 Points.... "Cleared SCoB" + 0,77 Points...

Stuff up to 300 Points ^^...

oh boy, im not lucky with this

You have no idea how much i would be fine with that. I was expecting something completely insane like level all desynthesis to 100 and break down i90+ stuff.

[Tharian]

Unless I have been seriously misinformed, there will be no gear drops from Third Coil. Third Coil is just another way of saying "Brutal Coil" which Yoshida pretty much confirmed that the only reward for the completion of is actually just a flashy new Title.

[MartaDemireux]

What concerns me is the way to upgrade it obviously...

"A weapon’s soul attunement level will rise by a set amount determined by the activity being performed."

I fear right now, there is stuff coming like in desynthing... "F.A.T.E Suceeded" -- + 0,37 Points.... "Cleared SCoB" + 0,77 Points...

Stuff up to 300 Points ^^...

oh boy, im not lucky with this

Get ready to do a ton of low level dungeons and main scenario quests! SE said they were looking into a way to get players doing them more since new players are facing terrible queue times. Wouldn't be surprised if this is their answer.

[Shioban]

Funny, because originally, Relics were on par with Coil weapons.

The effort to obtain a relic is completely different.

"Do [X] Fates" > "Do [X] Dungeons" >"Obtain [X] Materia" >"Obtain Relic Weapon"

Zenith Weapons weren't meant to be on par with Allagan Weapons, which is why it was adjusted.

Why should a weapon that can be purchased with myth be on-par with that of the "final content" for that patch. It simply slaps the raiders in the face, as the exception for any end-game raid weapon in almost any MMO is to be "the most powerful".

Coil gear shouldn't be outclassing a Relic, ever.

It should.

And the development team agrees completely agrees. The argument being that your reward for overcoming the most challenging content in the game, is a weapon that reflects that, not just as a visual status symbol, but also one that actually plays that part.


A relic weapon does not reflect that, repeating old content, spending money on material infusions and an hourly grind, is NOT the same.

[Krr]

I, for one, am excited to hunt for the souls of demons to empower my own personal Nexus. Hopefully they add a good reward for repeat runs of Flamelurker (Extreme) to encourage veterans of the encounter to help newer players.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

I, for one, am excited to hunt for the souls of demons to empower my own personal Nexus. Hopefully they add a good reward for repeat runs of Flamelurker (Extreme) to encourage veterans of the encounter to help newer players.

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