I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

[Onidemon]

We need to go with as little balancing as possible cause its usually not proper or intelligent The less chances for SE to mess things up with bad balancing the better.

We still need to give them a chance.... they could maybe do this right this time? Anyways bad balancing can always be fixed with more balancing. The truth is that even PVE only mmos are being constantly balanced to fix stuff, make up for new content, dungeons, monsters etc... PVP will just be another factor to consider when they are doing their balancing of the month meetings...

[Jibe]

I'm willing to give PvP a chance. I'm just not advocating it. I will continue to play this game if they add PvP, I would just prefer it not to have it

[Akumu]

That would be hard to explain to all those against PVP because at this moment the future of the armory or any game mechanics could be anything.... They redesigning pretty much everything and Yoshi-p has yet to give us a clear explanation on how thing will work in the future.

I could say like "wow is doing it this way" just like you described but watch all the replies coming saying "we don't want a wow clone". Neither do i...but i still think PVP could work and even be very fun if done correctly.

My motto is the more features the better the game will be. Assuming these features were properly done in the first place.

I understand you and I'm not entirely against PvP myself but one thing I have to ask myself is... Can SE actually pull off a good/great BALANCED PvP system in a field they know little about? Maybe Yoshi-P is great in this area but i dont know...

[Onidemon]

Did he say there will for sure be PvP? I was unable to figure out exactly what he meant due to not reading japanese and google translate failure to make comprehensible sentences during translations.

Yes he did and that is not the only place where SE mentioned PVP coming to FF XIV for sure. I think he even mentioned in one of his letters replying to the player's poll.

It only makes sense since FF XI had some PVP in it. Since we know PVP will most likely be a reality of this game i just want to know what is stopping open world PVP? (consider PVP flag on/off.... just making sure pple remember this when answering lol)

[Malakhim]

iJust thought about something.... Yoshi-P said there will be PVP for sure right? But just no open world PVP. (Taking this from one of his posts in the forums)

I mean even if we fight in arenas and instanced environments or in some PVP areas. We still fighting and killing each other right? Then balancing it is still needed to make sure that no one class raises above everything else.....

So now that we know that PVP will be there for sure.... and a PVP on/off flag preventing people from being killed when they don't want to. We also know that PVP balancing cannot be avoided since SE said there will be PVP. What exactly is stopping open world PVP?(keep in mind the arguments i gave above as in the flag)

Probably because of this:

...due to the player mentality it creates. People griefing other players and the possibility for general asshat behavior. The idea of Final Fantasy is to be coming together to save the world, not be dicks to each other. Save that for the FPS flavor of the week.

You say you want duels. Go to the arena and have your fill.

It keeps going back to the same question: Why do you want open world PvP?

[Jibe]

Malakhim makes a good point. Why should we have to keep trying to defend why we don't want it? You say you want it but you don't really say why. Do you want to grief people? Do you want it just because you think it will draw more players to the game? What is your reason for wanting open world PvP so much?

[Onidemon]

I understand you and I'm not entirely against PvP myself but one thing I have to ask myself is... Can SE actually pull off a good/great BALANCED PvP system in a field they know little about? Maybe Yoshi-P is great in this area but i dont know...

Yes that is that is the the biggest concern with PVP.... well we know that PVP will come in some form.. maybe arenas? we will see then if it is done right. If it sucks then they dont need to bother with open world PVP.... if it rocks, then open world PVP can be considered.

[Dalmore]

There will be NO PK he already said that so get off the whole Open world PvP kick

[Onidemon]

Probably because of this:



You say you want duels. Go to the arena and have your fill.

It keeps going back to the same question: Why do you want open world PvP?

Cuz i want to be a dick and camp Malakhim's ass lol

[Jibe]

I was just looking at the player's poll. Why would SE choose to implement PvP if only such a small portion of people who took the poll even want PvP? %5.3 of people want to undertake PvP as a group, and %3.5 want to undertake it solo, according to people who answered the poll. That is VERY FEW people. Why would they even consider adding it if BARELY ANYONE WANTS IT TO BEGIN WITH?

Those numbers represent a niche playerbase. If SE wants to get as many subscribers as possible why are they focusing on a feature that is a niche?