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    Clearly define morale/uncapped vs IL80 matches in duty finder - xpost from UI forums

    I actually originally meant to put this in these forums and wound up in UI forums. But it belongs there just as much.

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    The rare times that i do get to play more than one morale match a day, i REPEATEDLY get matched up with first-time den players on my team. I always found this to be a bit puzzling since, if there were i80 matches, why wouldn't new players just try that instead? Then, upon speaking to someone about it they said "oh i didn't know, i thought IL80 was the highest match."

    It was then that i realized that

    A. i almost never get 80 capped matches on random
    B. the titles and descriptions are not clearly defined and ambiguous when it comes to morale
    C. most players new to den play 50 morale matches thinking that it's a lower level than 80 and that it's probably i50 capped.

    This is obviously a problem because the rare times players do want to randomly do den, they are in the wrong place. Nowhere in i80 matches does it clearly state "morale has no effect here." And it doesn't say that morale clearly does for the 50 uncapped. Moreover, the 80 matches are placed higher than the 50 uncapped ones in the duty finder. Pretend you are a new player wanting to try pvp. You'd probably be pretty confused about not only the text and wording, but the intuitiveness of it all within the DF menu.

    This is something that definitely affects new players and prevents the right demographics from playing the appropriate matches. And if it were clearly defined like:

    Level 50 - uncapped item level - morale
    Level 50 - I80 - no morale

    then everyone would be far better off and 80 matches would gain a huge increase in popularity.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    In fact, it should be clearly stated somewhere that morale ONLY applies to level 50 Wolves Den. That it doesn't apply to 4 of the 5 matching options (30 40 i80WD i80FL) is highly misleading.
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    Absolutely
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    It's also come to my attention that many still don't even realize the i80 bracket for Wolves' Den exists, much less that you unlock it just by talking to an NPC.
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    Yep. It's about as counter-intuitive as you can make it be.

    Also if you sort by ascending or descending, i80 will always be ahead of uncapped. Basically yet another strike against people actually understanding, let alone trying i80 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreus View Post
    It's also come to my attention that many still don't even realize the i80 bracket for Wolves' Den exists, much less that you unlock it just by talking to an NPC.
    Yeah honestly they really need to have a small simple quest to unlock it, or SOMETHING to let players know its there. Its completely not obvious. He dosent even have a marker over his head.

    Just something, ANYTHING to let players know it exists.
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