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    Devdan Stargaryen
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Would a penta melded diamond choker make any sense?

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NSXL

    Stat weights say it's a little better than the HA choker, and the extra Vit is needed for Savage if you are going to try that out.
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Devdan View Post
    Would a penta melded diamond choker make any sense?

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NSXL

    Stat weights say it's a little better than the HA choker, and the extra Vit is needed for Savage if you are going to try that out.
    Technically, it's better by the equivalent of 1 whole INT point worth of stats so if the real question should be if you want the extra vit for Savage coil because else, you'll never notice that whole 1 INT of stats.
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    Guinevere Thundersnow
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You lose 6 CRT and 8 DET for 19 Spell Speed. Not worth it.
    One thing you forgot to take into consideration here is you gain 2 int from i100 to i110 on the neck. So you lost 6 crit and 8 det but gain 19 speed and 2 int. It's actually much closer than you make it out. Even if you use .25 for crit and .283 for det and the ariyala value .094 for speed you actually come out on top with his build (but only very slightly).
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecastle2 View Post
    One thing you forgot to take into consideration here is you gain 2 int from i100 to i110 on the neck. So you lost 6 crit and 8 det but gain 19 speed and 2 int. It's actually much closer than you make it out. Even if you use .25 for crit and .283 for det and the ariyala value .094 for speed you actually come out on top with his build (but only very slightly).
    Spell Speed is not worth .094. It was considered at .081 when people thought that it affected the pet, which has already been confirmed to not be the case. Spell Speed is closer to being .065 and that's being generous.

    6 CRT and 8 DET = 3,74 INT
    19 SS and 2 INT = 3,23 INT

    Difference is minimal but the build with higher CRT and higher DET will always yield more consistent results.
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