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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    You list each step as a single feeding, correct? IE step 1 feed X amount of berries, wait 6 hours for change, step 2 feed X amount of pears. Or are you doing this all in one feeding only splitting up the fruits. IE. Feed X pears, feed Y berries, Z apples, then wait out the 6 hour change period?
    All fruits fed in one 6 hr session.

    We can do this because we know our start and target values, hence able to calculate the fruits we need. The feed is broken down into steps so we can keep the RGB values within 0~255.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    I just want to make sure I understand this correctly so I don't mess up since I have only a small housing plot to work with so feed takes a long time to grow. You list each step as a single feeding, correct? IE step 1 feed X amount of berries, wait 6 hours for change, step 2 feed X amount of pears. Or are you doing this all in one feeding only splitting up the fruits. IE. Feed X pears, feed Y berries, Z apples, then wait out the 6 hour change period?
    Second version, ie you keep switching fruit as calculated till you feed everything and then wait 6 hours.
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    Using the calculator and AttacKat's suggestion of how to break it down, I was trying to go from Celeste Green to Lotus Pink. I didn't get there. I hit Snow White instead and I'm not sure why.

    Feeding Screenshots Celeste to Snow:





    From Snow White to Lotus Pink, 1 Pineapple, 1 Plum, 6 Valfruit. This is how I broke it down to avoid hitting the R/B wall:



    Finally!


    The calculator wasn't dead on, nor was AttacKat's suggestion. Nothing seems to be a shoo-in yet, but this method makes sense to me.
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    HE'S BLACK! MY GALLUS IS BLACK, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I must have wasted literally more than a million gil on this BUT HE'S BLACK. AttacKat, I could kiss you! The Deepwood Green > Soot Black route, stopping at the @ worked. He's all pretty and black and matches his Sleipnir barding perfectly. I can finally yank him out of that stable where he's been sitting on his ever-widening feathery ass, knocking food - and therefore, my gil - down his gullet and get him some exercise. Ta, 'yall, I'll be riding around Eorzea showing off my big black cock!

    (Also, I lol'd at "Dingbat." That's hilarious, I love it.)
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    NOTE 9/9: Used GIMP tool and re-spec the RGB color values, the GIMP averages the value of 7x7 pixels sample space; therefore, it is also further refined and rounded to the nearest 4th scale. (0, 3, 7, 11, 15 ... 255)

    Quote Originally Posted by PuhnTang View Post
    The calculator wasn't dead on, nor was AttacKat's suggestion. Nothing seems to be a shoo-in yet, but this method makes sense to me.
    And I don't know if we ever will be. But at least now we have a tool that can get everyone into a general range at first feed, and then fine tune from there.

    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Well, I did as you suggested and just gave her 1 apple, 1 pear and 1 berry in that order expecting to get K brown again. ... Checked up on her and Soot Black O_o.
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    lol, thanks ... tho I got there a step ahead I guess!!! :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Fliss View Post
    HE'S BLACK! MY GALLUS IS BLACK, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I must have wasted literally more than a million gil on this BUT HE'S BLACK. ... The Deepwood Green > Soot Black route, stopping at the @ worked. He's all pretty and black and matches his Sleipnir barding perfectly.
    Congrads ... So I think we can finally say this microfeeding is getting everyone moving at the right direction. Both Reivaxe's and your case here is especially helpful as it proves that we can be off a little, so minor adjustments are still needed. But at least now we know what the deal is when it comes to these color traps. However small the error may be, even if it was just 1, might have been the cause that made it become 1 fruit too many and tips into the next color scale.

    BTW, yeah, this can be a costly endeavor. Lucky for me I have my own plot that I can grow fruits on to do all these experiments. But even so, after a few hundred fruits, say 2-5K each, plus easy 80-160K on dirt per crop, I see how it can run up the tap pretty quickly.
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    Last edited by AttacKat; 09-10-2014 at 11:16 AM.

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    Okay so I'm deciding to go for Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple.


    I'm considering starting at the blue path, (starting at either Cork Brown or Ul Brown) but according to the chart above the red path (beginning at Millicorn Yellow) seem shorter.

    I want to know how to use this method to get to Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple for both paths
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    kobold brown>deepwood green>kobold brown

    Using the feed orders found in the topic. It just won't give me soot black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuhnTang View Post
    I got Snow White and thought the same thing, he just looked dirty. You might try Ice Blue. It's not really a blue, and IMO is nicer than the White. One of our FC mates has it and it's really stunning. Good luck!
    Will try that next, thanks for the recommendation.
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    Just a heads up, I followed the directions for ink blue to soot black, and the path took me to deepwood green, then ended up at chesnut brown.
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    Last edited by KaozMarquis; 09-10-2014 at 08:53 PM. Reason: mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Okay so I'm deciding to go for Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple.

    I'm considering starting at the blue path, (starting at either Cork Brown or Ul Brown) but according to the chart above the red path (beginning at Millicorn Yellow) seem shorter.

    I want to know how to use this method to get to Abyssal Blue or Gloom Purple for both paths
    Instructions on how to apply the mecrofeeding method is located right after the OP.

    The microfeeding method does not rely the color map because that map is based on single fruit / one proc feeding method. Mecorfeeding method allows you to feed the full amount at one session and can get to the desired color, or at worst case within the color range and requires further fine tuning.

    Using the color map, the red path seems shorter because it takes less feather procs, but it is more expensive (fruit wise) because it takes a lot more apples then the blue path with berries (more expensive time wise). That sort of information isn't included in the color map.

    With microfeeding, it recommends the lowest amount of fruits based the RGB value calculations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anatha View Post
    kobold brown>deepwood green>kobold brown

    Using the feed orders found in the topic. It just won't give me soot black.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaozMarquis View Post
    Just a heads up, I followed the directions for ink blue to soot black, and the path took me to deepwood green, then ended up at chesnut brown.
    Just updated the FAQ section, refer to the question on color looping.
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    Last edited by AttacKat; 09-10-2014 at 09:39 PM.

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