Atma book FATE "Giant Seps" is not part of normal FATE rotation, and will not being

[Valkyrie_Faleva]

This is bull. I understand wanting to create something difficult and time consuming to have players get an ultimate weapon. Totes get it. This fate crap is the worst I've ever had to deal with in any mmo. Who the hell plays a game to just stand around waiting on a special fate to show up or grinds the same fates over and over to get an atma to drop. It's not the idea. Give me epically difficult bosses or raids to finish. Loging into game to stand in coerthas waiting is dumb. And it's been HOURS. You think people in wow or aion or any others are just standing in one spot for hours? See now while I'm waiting I have all this time to rage on a forum ....lol

I take it you have never camped HNMs daily, 3-5 day windows for Khimara, Cerberus, Tiamat... just to have another linkshell claiming...

[Chibired]

I take it you have never camped HNMs daily, 3-5 day windows for Khimara, Cerberus, Tiamat... just to have another linkshell claiming...

I never understood that kind of reasoning. Are you defending horrible game design that everyone hated 12 years ago because... 12 years ago it was common? Games have evolved and falling back on archaic game design is just sad. One of the reasons I believe Wild Star is such a horrible game is because it decided to ignore a decade worth of advancements in gameplay. Up to this point I would say FFXIV was generally adhering to good design choices, the ATMA grinding was a bit obnoxious but at the very least you could do it on your own time. No one enjoys waiting around for hours to finish up a quest. No one enjoyed HNM farming in FFXI, it was obnoxious and boring and created an atmosphere of volatile players who would do everything in their power to grief and troll the LS that won the pull.

I am sick of FATES, and SE forcing them down my throat every step of the way is becoming rather annoying. Did they forget that we just ran god knows how many FATES to get our ATMA weapon... and now they want us to go and wait on specific FATES. Cruel.

[Valkyrie_Faleva]

Wouldn't say I'm defending them, but it was fun, I had a great LS, 98% JP 2% NA. Everyone was friendly, great system for loot. When I went to Japan with friends, we visited them, they even treated us to Dinner and kareoke

Seps was the most challenging FATE I do agree... Prepare for your other 8 books

900 enemies, 27 dungeons, 27 FATEs, 27 Leves (total)

You can complete in any order.
Leave mobs til the end. They are your time filler.
FATEs you cannot control, the rest is at your pace.

Hunting FATEs are priority. Kill a set of mobs, tele back, check on the location. Cycle through what you need to complete, I can't stress that enough.

We can hold 16 Leves, your leves/gc leves are mainly from Whiteburn(sp?), Bluefog, and Mor Dhona. Do the leves, do not accpet reward. Look up the books and see which Leves you need... 16 of 24 Leves completed is good with me.

Its a lot to do with luck, but theres other stuff you can do.