Atma book FATE "Giant Seps" is not part of normal FATE rotation, and will not being

[Braskahan]

I ve waited there for 3 days...then it popped when I was at boulder downs and get there when it was at 65%.I fought and completed the fate. Got Silver, got no credit for book. It doesn't state that it has to be a gold, right? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong but...I think they owe me that credit.

[RiceisNice]

FATEs have to be gold rating. Of all the Fates in the entire animus quest, I'd say Giant Seps is the only one I've seen that seems to earn the most ire. Even before I got my Atma weapon though, I saw Giant Seps at least 3 times while leveling my first class in Cotheras via FATEs. It really does feel that the more people you have clearing FATEs in the area, the faster it'll cycle through new ones.

The thing is that it doesn't feel like they'd pop in a set order, just "pick out of a hat" sort of deal. And with how big cotheras is, I can see how that can lead to Giant Seps being the biggest blockade for the books.

[Jaarlask]

there IS a special condition that makes it pop faster, just murder all the dragon flies for a few (less than 5 sometimes) minutes and it pops. i've done it 4 times (once for book and 3 more to confirm) and these were all within 20 minutes after it had already ended. this was on admantoise. Same with "make it rain", kill plasmids for a bit and it pops.

[Mikita]

I just went through this last night.

I was waiting by myself for close to 2 hours, before a few of my FC friends came to help. 3 of us remained near where Giant Seps spawns and we killed everything around the area, while the remaining FC member went off to clear any other FATE he could get to in Coerthas. Finally, nearly an hour later, Giant Seps started...

Why is this FATE made to be so rare and important for progressing through a key part of the game?

It's just one level 40 "boss", and not terribly interesting at that. It seems like a pretty silly game design decision.

[Matrinka]

I have only a limited amount of time to play this game. I spent months getting all the Atma I needed to upgrade my relic. It was annoying, but I could still queue in for other things and FATE grind for the Atma in between. Now that I'm on the books... *sigh* all I can do is sit on my butt and wait/hope for the FATES I need to pop. Instead of running dungeons with my friends, I'm sitting, doing nothing fun, waiting for a rare FATE to appear. I can't go anywhere, because, I don't want to miss it and continue waiting for even more hours.

SE, PLEASE fix the FATEs needed for the books. Why not have it on a timer, set to pop up every 3 hours? It is insane to ask to us to buy a subscription, then lock us into sitting around doing nothing. Is this your way of getting us to buy more months? I've been around for over a year - I'd much rather pay to play than pay to wait.

[Themadness]

This is bull. I understand wanting to create something difficult and time consuming to have players get an ultimate weapon. Totes get it. This fate crap is the worst I've ever had to deal with in any mmo. Who the hell plays a game to just stand around waiting on a special fate to show up or grinds the same fates over and over to get an atma to drop. It's not the idea. Give me epically difficult bosses or raids to finish. Loging into game to stand in coerthas waiting is dumb. And it's been HOURS. You think people in wow or aion or any others are just standing in one spot for hours? See now while I'm waiting I have all this time to rage on a forum ....lol

[Ooshima]

Just wait there and do something else? I just park my character there and do other things in other windows. You could turn on the speaker volume and go cook a meal or something too.

[Laura_Beinbrech]

They have added the Giant Seps FATE to the Daily Hunt mark bills as well, and while I can personally confirm its ridiculously low spawn rate, I was able to ameliorate the waiting by running dungeons with friends, doing quick things in other areas (like the non-FATE daily hunts) and, later, mass slaughtering the Ornery Karakul sheep outside Dragonhead (my FC is gearing up for some massive crafter Spiritbonding & needed mats to craft the Patricians' gear). It was while doing this last bit (along with grabbing the Darksteel Ore spawn when it came up) that the FATE FINALLY popped, and I was able to get to it and get credit for the daily hunt before it was done. Still, having FATEs like this being required for quest progression or daily hunts is pretty ridiculous.

[Valkyrie_Faleva]

This is bull. I understand wanting to create something difficult and time consuming to have players get an ultimate weapon. Totes get it. This fate crap is the worst I've ever had to deal with in any mmo. Who the hell plays a game to just stand around waiting on a special fate to show up or grinds the same fates over and over to get an atma to drop. It's not the idea. Give me epically difficult bosses or raids to finish. Loging into game to stand in coerthas waiting is dumb. And it's been HOURS. You think people in wow or aion or any others are just standing in one spot for hours? See now while I'm waiting I have all this time to rage on a forum ....lol

I take it you have never camped HNMs daily, 3-5 day windows for Khimara, Cerberus, Tiamat... just to have another linkshell claiming...

[Chibired]

I take it you have never camped HNMs daily, 3-5 day windows for Khimara, Cerberus, Tiamat... just to have another linkshell claiming...

I never understood that kind of reasoning. Are you defending horrible game design that everyone hated 12 years ago because... 12 years ago it was common? Games have evolved and falling back on archaic game design is just sad. One of the reasons I believe Wild Star is such a horrible game is because it decided to ignore a decade worth of advancements in gameplay. Up to this point I would say FFXIV was generally adhering to good design choices, the ATMA grinding was a bit obnoxious but at the very least you could do it on your own time. No one enjoys waiting around for hours to finish up a quest. No one enjoyed HNM farming in FFXI, it was obnoxious and boring and created an atmosphere of volatile players who would do everything in their power to grief and troll the LS that won the pull.

I am sick of FATES, and SE forcing them down my throat every step of the way is becoming rather annoying. Did they forget that we just ran god knows how many FATES to get our ATMA weapon... and now they want us to go and wait on specific FATES. Cruel.