Coil lockouts: "we haven’t been able to find an alternative system to take its place"

[scarletfoxxy]

The only TRUE way to eliminate any BS and keep everything legit is this: If you run with anyone or any team that has already cleared, you too now forfeit your claim to roll on any gear. A warning message should pop up alerting that someone has cleared already and if you proceed loot cannot be rolled on. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK. Otherwise, people will sell/carry/farm their way to gear. Achievements are also locked out. This is the only LEGIT means of replaying turns for practice or fun purposes ONLY!

[Grotesque]

The only TRUE way to eliminate any BS and keep everything legit is this: If you run with anyone or any team that has already cleared, you too now forfeit your claim to roll on any gear. A warning message should pop up alerting that someone has cleared already and if you proceed loot cannot be rolled on. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK. Otherwise, people will sell/carry/farm their way to gear. Achievements are also locked out. This is the only LEGIT means of replaying turns for practice or fun purposes ONLY!

Yes, that is right.

[Nestama]

The only TRUE way to eliminate any BS and keep everything legit is this: If you run with anyone or any team that has already cleared, you too now forfeit your claim to roll on any gear. A warning message should pop up alerting that someone has cleared already and if you proceed loot cannot be rolled on. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK. Otherwise, people will sell/carry/farm their way to gear. Achievements are also locked out. This is the only LEGIT means of replaying turns for practice or fun purposes ONLY!

I'm okay with this.

[Vesuvias]

You know everytime i see these threads I always love how the vocal ones against coil lockouts are the ones who have coil drops, already. the ones who would make it so that their special drops are just a little more common....

but just for the record, Im one of those poor sods who is stuck on t5 and it isnt for a lack of trying...

[Nestama]

You know everytime i see these threads I always love how the vocal ones against coil lockouts are the ones who have coil drops, already.

The only Second Coil piece I have is the High Allagan Mask of Casting and I got lucky with that, since I was the only Caster (SMN kiter) in the T7 PuG.

[Vesuvias]

The only Second Coil piece I have is the High Allagan Mask of Casting and I got lucky with that, since I was the only Caster (SMN kiter) in the T7 PuG.

I realize not everyone has full high allegan, but I do love that the ones who seem to be the most vocal about coil having to have lockouts are the ones who seem to already have a full set.

[Nestama]

Urgh, misread again. Should sleep.
It's mostly a 50/50 on that regard. The people who already have their gear are against the removal of the lockout, because then the gear won't feel special or something. Whereas the other group of people with the gear are all for its removal.

Honestly, the lockout should be removed in hotfix patches after major patches (2.35, 2.38 for example. Echo not being applied until a few weeks after 2.4). Or do scarletfoxxy's idea. With Hunts already handing out Oils and Sands, there's no point to a lockout. People are already hitting ilvl108-109.

Yes, I'm still bitter my friends can do Coil in an organised static (and will possibly remain a static for Third Coil). Whereas I'm either PuGing my way to where they're at or watching my (no longer in) static implode on itself over silly drama disputes... or people not showing up at all.

[TheMax1087]

I never got a single monk drop back when the group I was in started clearing coil 1, and though I've only been working on it for a month now(since most of my old static quit and I didn't feel like joining a new one) and haven't cleared t9 yet, I've still never gotten a monk drop. My feelings on coil lockouts should be clear from just that.

Edit: meant to post this in the other lockout topic, but it fits just as well here

[Riyos]

Oh noes 1% of the population will sell clears to 3% of the population. Clearly worrying about less than 5% of the population is a reason to not implement something that will be of great benefit to the other 95%.

>implying that 95% of XIV's community does coil :V

[krazyrs]

i just like to be able to replay the content the same week
fine with the lockout, just make it somewhat like ST
so you already beat t6 this week, didnt win anything, sad, you can replay it but cant lot loot at the end

would love to help some fc members out but i "cant" cause my static goes wed night