So now that fatigue is going away....what about Gathering Fatigue?

[Shyd]

Sorry....

What's the NM Faction Leve trick? I'm curious? O.o

[Arcell]

As for NM gimp, I don't know about that either. But I can tell you one thing, they didn't punish Battle classes for people exploiting it did they? No.

They did, they fixed it.

[HiirNoivl]

Nah, that's not punishment they fixed it.

Here's an easy way to fix fish leves without making them completely unusable.

The bug wasn't that you could catch fish for better sp for 30 minutes, it was that they allowed leve linking for it and then someone could fish for supercharged sp for 30 minutes.

The fix? End leve linking for fish leves.

Doesn't punish legit players, legit players can still get decent sp from fish leves.

Why is this not a good plan?

EDIT: While they're at it, they should probably just get rid of linking for all gatherers. Unless they want to be nice and make a leve where it actually makes sense to party. But since their not in a giving mood when it comes to gatherers there's no point in linking gather leves at all.

[Arcell]

It's the exact same thing. People were exploiting the system to gain an unintended advantage (more SP/no wasting faction points) and they fixed it. Considering they fixed it they did not intend for people to be able to fish supercharged for 30 minutes. The point of the leve is to complete the objective, get SP/marks and move on.

The fishing leves now work like pretty much all the gathering leves which is another problem entirely but that's not the point.

I don't consider it a punishment, it's just how game development is. Things are changed over time and become easier or harder depending.

[HiirNoivl]

Yeah Gather leves are pretty much broken for the most part... (See Edit)

EDIT: I think by faction points you mean Aspect? You don't need faction points to do a gather leve. But Gather leves are pretty much a waste of aspect. I think that gather leves should be the way fishing leves were so that you can gather for greater sp than without the leve. But they shouldn't allow linking if they're going to do that.

EDIT AGAIN: Cause, let's face it: If there's no advantage to doing leves SP wise, there's not point to the leve.

[Arcell]

No I meant faction points for the NM exploit. You could just keep doing the faction NMs without spending points if I recall correctly.

[HiirNoivl]

Ohhh.... yeah that's broken. :P

[Reika]

Sorry....

What's the NM Faction Leve trick? I'm curious? O.o

Starting a faction leve, abandoning it, rejoining it, and still recieving algian runstone all while being able to do it next reset without spending faction points on it. Fixed.

Those who abused it... SHOULD DIE!

It's the exact same thing. People were exploiting the system to gain an unintended advantage (more SP/no wasting faction points) and they fixed it. Considering they fixed it they did not intend for people to be able to fish supercharged for 30 minutes. The point of the leve is to complete the objective, get SP/marks and move on.

The fishing leves now work like pretty much all the gathering leves which is another problem entirely but that's not the point.

I don't consider it a punishment, it's just how game development is. Things are changed over time and become easier or harder depending.

FULL reason above :P.

[HiirNoivl]

Yeah excpt for the "Get SP" part. It's much better to just straight grind fishing. Leves on fisher are a waste of time. So they went from useful and exploited to useless and abandoned completely. That's why I say not a fix, it's a break. Better to keep it useful and remove the exploit.

I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.