Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
There are plenty of reasons one might need to open router ports such as other games (FFXIV is not the first I've had to open ports to update or even play in some cases), shoutcast servers, ventrillo servers, dedicated servers for games, etc. While it's a bit outside the norm to need to do so, it's something any gamer should know how to do.
They arent things that everyone uses though, what I am looking for is things that everyone uses, and talking about ventrillo and shoutcast servers, most people I have know just pay to rent them rather than set up their own because it is alot easier.

How many people do you know that host their own games, because I know no one.

And the amount of games that you do need to forward ports for are few and far between. So I stand by what I say, that you should not need to forward ports for optimal performance, also I can get 1Mb/s downloads in utorrent for alot of things, the SE patcher uses the same protocols, so the reason for slow downloads is a mix of SE not using 3rd party seeds and programming issues, I can get peers and seeds through closed ports in utorrent so the programming for the patcher should also allow that.