A fundamental flaw with FL (and PvP in general)

[Skeet]

Hey! Mr Divinemight! since I'm not a true pvper! like you said Let me show you!
I have well over 5300+ matches under my belt and that doesn't include FrontlLine!
since you know so much lets see what you got!

4v4 den matches saturday! 12pst

The outcome of the fight wouldn't matter. I'm pretty sure you know that as well, Hailie.

Unless both sides' teammates agree not to fight, and let your characters 1v1, then it will never serve as a point. And even if this was the case, depending on character classes, it still wouldn't be fair as certain classes have advantages over others.

In particular, a WHM and a SCH has an advantage over pretty much every other class when it comes to 1v1.
-I'm sure no one with a functional brain will deny this.

If you do PvP for the case of who's "better", then I suggest using the same classes when/if you duke it out. In a best of 5 or first to 3 wins format to make things more fair than one simple fight. On the low chance both of you listens to this and actually does this, don't do healer vs healer. It's beyond boring and pointless as the winner will be the person who doesn't give up healing themselves >__>

[Hailie]

In particular, a WHM and a SCH has an advantage over pretty much every other class when it comes to 1v1.
-I'm sure no one with a functional brain will deny this.

4v4 den matches saturday! 12pst <---- did you miss the Numbers lol 4v4? means 4 people battling it out with 4 other people.
Was just inviting for 4v4s we do this every weekend with other servers anyone is welcome to join in

behemoth is looking to do some set 4v4 cross-server matches starting at 12PST but we would also do some mixed matches if that doesn't work out. we are expecting some of the regulars from ultros and hopefully leviathan if they are ready to go at the least, and all are welcome at any rate!

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