Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[GeminiXIV]

Do I have to start over? Theres no way I can go from Colibri Pink to Snow White?

[Dark_Thorne]

Midnight blue is a lighter shade of blue than ink blue. Midnight blue also has balanced levels of green & blue, while ink blue has a slightly elevated green value (midway between red & blue). And since you've been switching between rolanberry red & blue, your red is probably a little high too.

My suggestion is to feed it 1 apple and 2 pears to slightly drop red, slightly increase green and drop your blue values down by a bit. This should hopefully get you in (or close to) the ink blue range.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! I've been trying for so long and this worked! Went from midnight blue to my coveted ink blue. For anyone in the same position, I followed this suggestion and fed 2 pears and 1 apple (getting the new feather proc only on feeding the last apple).

[kgbrown247]

i am in the deepwood and ink blue loop. deepwood + valfruit get ink. ink + pineapple = deepwood. any advice?

[sanjista]

after feeding equal amounts of valfruit, plum, and pinapple he became a Sylph Green from Goobbue Grey, so he's one step away from snow white? should i just feed the equal amounts a bit more?

[Dipasca]

I finally got the Shadow Blue that I've been dying to get (no pun intended) since we started growing fruits in our garden. It took a total of 24 feeds and 2 complete redos. I experimented a lot, mostly trying to figure out things on my own in my first feed but gave up after getting Ink Blue for a third time. The second set of feeding I went off of a lot of other posters results here and a couple other places but ultimately ended up getting set back to Regal Purple three times (three strikes, you're out.)

Frustrated and unsure where to go from this point, I took my girlfriend's advice and just fed it another Han Lemon and then did a massive feeding at once, going off the anecdotes from this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arding/ck1tpgi

One person was able to get Shadow Blue from one feeding of 26x berries, 17x pears, 13x apples from scratch (Desert Yellow.) Another got Russet Brown and another Charcoal Grey. I figured that Charcoal Grey would at least put me in the ballpark, but the RNG gods decided to smile upon me and just give me my Shadow Blue.



I know this isn't the most helpful or efficient means to get there but I thought it might help someone. Myself and another have gotten it this way now, with the other two at least close. So if you have the resources and don't mind giving it a shot, it might be worthwhile. I know I'm happy with the result.

Anyway, good luck to everyone trying to get the color they want. I think it's safe to say there is definitely some RNG involved here. It can suck but eventually you'll find the right information and/or give it the right feed and you'll get it.

If anyone wants to know what I fed it (with feather procs) on my first two experimental feeds, I'll post it in case that may help someone as well.

[AttacKat]

Simple, you try to make the "To Target" numbers as small as possible in order to aim for the "center" of the target color space. If you're aiming for the center of the color space, it gives you the most room for error caused by RNG and an uncertain starting point. "Current Guess" should be ignored entirely.

So, can you put that down in RGB values for ALL the 85 colors we have, so for each color, we can have an actual "target" to aim for, and a known "center" to look at. It will be a very helpful reference for others.

[NellCrescent]

Hello. I've been following this thread and my experience has contradicted a lot of the assumptions here. I was able to get the colour I wanted by using the following assumptions:

1) Rather than using the colour chart, use this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...li=1&sle=true#.
2) Rather than thinking of colours as exact values, consider them as ranges or zones , and the values in this sheet as approximate midpoints for those ranges. Exact matches aren't needed because there is a limited number of colours available for manifestation rather than the full spectrum.
3) The values on feed are bound by RNG. All fruits alter all three RGB values simultaneously in some way and trying to pinpoint rng for all three is impractical. The behaviour trend of each fruit (Trend, not norm!) is explained in the fruit description.

Cont'd

[NellCrescent]

4) The "Plumage will change in 6 hours" message appears always on first feed and indicates the start of the timer after which the colour number value change from feed becomes permanent.
The "Chocobo is starting to grow new feathers!" message is indication that you just crossed "ranges" into a new colour. All fruits proc but you need to sculpt and push to a different zone using different quantity and order of feed.
5) I found it personally much easier to feed one type of fruit at a time and proceed based on the results, since it's easier to tell the general direction the values will take with only one altering factor.

I'd like to know if anyone could corroborate these assumptions since I've found they worked for me the best.

[Giantbane]

So, can you put that down in RGB values for ALL the 85 colors we have, so for each color, we can have an actual "target" to aim for, and a known "center" to look at. It will be a very helpful reference for others.

It's the list of RGB values for the dyes. Even if they're guesses and not exact, they still represent a pretty good estimate of how the RGB values of the various color spaces relate to each other. Which is really the most important thing, having a numerical representation for how colors differ and how fruits change that color. It allows you to, for instance, have a better idea of how a gloom purple differs from a regal purple. And if you want to move from one to the other, you can make an educated guess as to how you'll need to move. This seems better to me than just taking single steps. I'm almost positive that these color spaces do not exist on a clean RGB grid that you can just transition easily from one dye to another in an orderly fashion. Crossing the boundary between two colors may require you to move in multiple directions at once, and not necessarily at 1:1:1 ratios between primary colors.

[Giantbane]

Do I have to start over? Theres no way I can go from Colibri Pink to Snow White?

Well, if you want to do it, your green is probably too low so you need to bring that up. My guess is 6 pineapple, 6 plum.

I want to say it would be fewer plums than that from desert yellow, but I honestly don't recall. You'd have to dig through the thread to find what others have used.

i am in the deepwood and ink blue loop. deepwood + valfruit get ink. ink + pineapple = deepwood. any advice?

I was able to do ink>black with 1 valfruit + 3 pineapples to bring up R & G and lower B

I would guess 2 pineapple + 2 valfruit to bring up your R values while keeping your G&B steady would help to move from deepwood>black