Give subscribers an extra day of subscription time to make up for maint/downtime.

[OdinEon]

You know what I do to combat NA/EU server maintenance syndrome?
I have a character on the Japanese server, rarely are they down at the same time.

[Emehsi]

It isn't so much complaining and i odn't mind feedback here, but telling a person what they already know and saying they are whining isn't exactly productive either. Whether u agree with me or not I put it forth that hey, this is a problem. As said before at least 4 servers were down for 8+ hours yesterday. Fine, maintenance is a part of the game, but I'd love to see how all of your servers respond when something like that happens to them 3 or 4 days in a week. No matter how much I say that the point was just to get SE to look at this, (and btw yes I and others have sent something directly to them) you choose to perceive it as someone whining and complaining for free stuff. Fine. Its in your right to see things that way regardless of if it is wrong or not, or TLDR so I'm gonna assume what this is all about.
When it happens to you, like it did to 4 servers at once yesterday for multiple hours (enough to be a mini update/patch within itself), we'll see if you don't feel differently. 4 servers, and the NA/EU datacenters. I'm SORRY if you want to take me voicing displeasure over maintenance as whining for free stuff, but again, was not the point, and while I don't mind you heckling me and throwing Tos at me or telling me i'm wrong, nothing you are saying is really constructive, or addresses the real point. Other than Odin who at least suggested an alternative all its been is "wow you're wrong" "deal with it" "its in the tos so why even post", and yet ironically not a post from a single person who had to deal with even just the maintenance yesterday.Say what you want, but its an issue. Maybe once it happens to you you'll respect it more, or heck even post something more than non-constructive criticism. I don't expect people to agree with me, but at least I'd expect ppl to actually read the post and understand the point of "hey, there have been a lot more maintenances than usual lately, mostly unplanned, longer than average, and taking a whole lot of time away from a whole lot of people."

TLDR thats the point right there, not whining about getting something for free but just adding a suggestion on to that because hell, rather than just not say anything and have them think its ok, at least at the end of the day its there for them to see that people aren't happy about it. That was all. While you are obviously open to your own opinion, I don't really get why some people go out of their way just to talk down to others for having an opinion themselves. But thanks for the input at least I guess, I'd be curious to see if that all holds if ever your server has to deal with that much maintenance during the only times you can play for multiple hours on end.

[Emehsi]

So you would rather play on a system that never gets maintanece all for a single day bonus sub.
Put it into context, if your car needed maintanece, would you ignore it just to get a few extra miles, then moan when it breaks down due to essential work being ignored.
Maint is a fact of any MMOs life, out of all the games I've played XIV has the lowest down time.
If your on about the PSN maint that wasn't due to SE was due to a ddos attack on Sony

To add , no we don't need an extra day to think you deserve free time when the downtime is to fix things not just to ruin your day is silly at best

Also in response to the car thing, If i take my car into the shop, i leave it there for a few days, the mechanic tells me nothing is wrong and that everything is fixed and I get it back then well,I expect it to be fixed. Now, put it into context, 2 days later same mechanic tells me something is wrong with the same car even though i haven't done anything myself to warrant another repair, I take it back in, wait for it again, and after a few hours he tells me it is fixed. A third time, mechanic calls out of nowhere, tells me it needs to be fixed again (and no im not talking about the ddos attacks) and that it needs to be taken in and that it'll be done in 4 hours or less. I come back in 4 hours and the mechanic says again oh it'll be just another 4 or 5 hours til its fixed. Well DAMN I think even using car repair as a metaphor I would still be peeved enough to voice how I feel. It may not change the fact that I need it repaired before i can use it to ensure it doesn't break again, but it does tell the mechanics that they need to be more on point with how they go about maintaining my car so I don't end up wasting my time and possibly missing out on things that I had planned just because they didn't properly fix it the first, second, or third time I brought it in.

No, aside form the ddos attacks that I do not blame SE for at all, and aside from the two emergency maintenances spanning many hours that were only two days apart, or the extended NA Datacenter maintenance that lasted 7 hours and came right after an all worlds' maintenance, 4 servers were once again down for 8ish hours right before reset and both NA/EU datacenters were screwed. I'm not allowed to voice displeasure over that? Oh my bad. I thought I was.

[Alistaire]

8 cents man, 8 pennies. And that's if SE were to acknowledge this was something beyond the ToS's disclosure of maintenances being something we have to deal with on both scheduled and unscheduled bases.

And sure, you have your freedom of speech to voice displeasure over things you've been informed right from the start will happen from time to time and that SE is not obligated to compensate you for.

[Emehsi]

8 cents man, 8 pennies. And that's if SE were to acknowledge this was something beyond the ToS's disclosure of maintenances being something we have to deal with on both scheduled and unscheduled bases.

And sure, you have your freedom of speech to voice displeasure over things you've been informed right from the start will happen from time to time and that SE is not obligated to compensate you for.

Still missing the point. But I guess tldr right? Nice grave digging. 8 cents not too big a deal you don't mind paying for my sub and the subs of everyone else who feels this way right? They aren't obligated to compensate and that isn't the real point but thanks again for going out of your way to derail the thread.

[Alistaire]

It's not grave digging, was actually looking for something else in threads I get subscribed to by posting in. And not missing the point either, just disagreeing with it.

[Eggnook24]

So, if you're not whining or asking for free service, what is this thread about? You've mentioned compensation for lost time played. Well, I farmed ATMA for 5 weeks to get my weapon. I didn't have fun doing it. Should I get a refund? What about when I decide to watch a movie instead of play. Should my game timer stop, and restart when I log in? Maybe SE could start charging by the hour...

[Emehsi]

So, if you're not whining or asking for free service, what is this thread about? You've mentioned compensation for lost time played. Well, I farmed ATMA for 5 weeks to get my weapon. I didn't have fun doing it. Should I get a refund? What about when I decide to watch a movie instead of play. Should my game timer stop, and restart when I log in? Maybe SE could start charging by the hour...

It was more to bring attention to the fact that they need to handle maintenances better. How many maintenances have we had in the last month compared to normal.
We had over 6-7 different maintenances last month, alot of those being unplanned/unscheduled maintenances spanning all together over 24-28 hours of game time. Sure maybe by hour it doesn't cost much, but you don't take cost per hour as a variable alone. What if all these hours came at inopportune times when it was the only time people could play? 3-4 of these out of the blue maintenances were right before reset. And by right before I don't mean3-4 hours, they were all 8 hours or longer.

You comparing the issue to atma is just a show of your inability to understand. What do those two have to do with each other? Sure the fact that it wasn't "fun" but whereas YOU CHOSE to do atma, and YOU DID IT WHILE PLAYING, these emergency maintenances come out of nowhere, affect alot of people, and take away alot of playtime.
The point here isn't to complain that there has to be maintenance or that we lose lots of time because of it, but more along the lines of, damn SE, why all these emergency maintenances? Or are you okay with that happening all the time? I wouldn't be surprised since you seem so deadset on making the thread out to be about whining.

SE has had multiple maintenances ASIDE from the normal ones that we normally have, up to 6-7 of them in the span of 2 weeks. The point is that they should look at handling their maints better and making sure things work properly instead of having multiple emergency maints two or three times a week and making the game unplayable for loads of people out of nowhere.

Read please, if you dont well, I guess its just another post of yours where you just refuse to really read someone else's side of things and instead choose to take it only how you see it. The suggestion of giving added game time was only a suggestion for se to possibly consider since realistically, having 6-7 unplanned, unnanounced maints fixing the same issues over and over and over again is not a good thing if they are looking to retain customers. Makes sense doesn't it? If thats all too complicated for you to grasp why not go back and read the car example I posted in my other comment. I mean, maybe if you actually read what I have to say instead of assuming it'd make more sense to you. But ofc judging from your other posts I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't. You just love being on that self-righteous put down others cloud that you're on huh? lol

[Emehsi]

It's not grave digging, was actually looking for something else in threads I get subscribed to by posting in. And not missing the point either, just disagreeing with it.

Once again, the actual monetary value of the time is not the point. Unless you want to pay for my sub since thats the way you see it and it really isn't an issue to you. When these out of the blue things hit and take away from the only times (yes plural) you have to play the game, or disrupt scheduled events like capping, or coil with your static or other things like this that you can't really just do whenever you want, then it becomes more of an issue. People have real lives, and its not like everyone can just play FFXIV whenever they want. Taking over 20 hours of playtime out of a week without any notice and out of the blue really affects some people. It wouldn't be a problem if it was announced, or hell, if it was a serious problem that they hadn't tried to fix before. But no, its the same problem, over, and over, and over again.

Not missing the point but not addressing it either. Makes total sense. I totally agree with you disagreeing....to whatever it is you think the point is. lol Once again, less about compensation, more about having less maints so close together, unnanounced and out of the blue. See the car example posted above. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not a fan of emergency maints 3x a week addressing the same issues over and over again. The compensation thing is jus a possible suggestion, or they could just be more efficient about how they do maintenance. Either or, but thats more to the point.

[Eggnook24]

Nope, OP, I've read all of your posts. And nice try flipping the table at me, not being self righteous at all. I was giving examples of things encountered that also affect game progression. So, asking respectfully, what is the point to this thread? What is your goal? Stating you aren't wanting free time and then turning around saying you do, it's all over this thread. Again, please make your point in as succinct a manner as you can. I've noticed you like to type quite a bit, so keep it simple for those dullards like me, in 3 sentences: what do you want SE to do for you?