Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
We as a community should try to be more understanding and helpful. ESPECIALLY when its the first 3 or 4 dungeons in the game. OP is right, there are alot of new players (including PS4 people who dont have keyboards yet) and alot of them have no clue how to play their class in party just yet... and yeah, maybe Gladiator wasnt the best choice to start with, but its what they chose and that shouldn't mean ridicule.
A keyboard is absolutely required to communicate and play in this game. If you don't have one, then don't play. It's really that simple.

To your broader point, the reason why people such as myself are pushing back against the obviously vague and dubious notion of being "understanding and helpful" makes it seem like creating a healthy community is a one-way street. The onus to contribute does not rest on the shoulders of players who are more experienced.

Even within the specific situation indicated by OP, we can see the futility in rendering detailed and comprehensive support and advice in-game. I'm not talking about small or individualized changes by style (e.g. speed runs, to mark or not to mark, how to handle certain mechanics).

What we're talking about here is a lack of basic knowledge about a member's role and the mechanics of enemies and bosses. As I discussed previously, the time when you're in a duty is not the time to be asking questions about how to play and what to know about the dungeon.

This information is available freely and easily online.
  • You can listen to the smooth, sultry voice of MrHappy as he walks you through your class and each dungeon and encounter.
  • You can support other up-and-coming videomakers on Youtube.
  • You can go to Console Games Wiki, FFXIV Guild, FFXIV Info, and even IGN for guides, with or without pictures. With or without descriptions. With or without videos. Take your pick.
  • You can search all the other various forums for threads about your topic of choice.

Now, instead of struggling through a duty because you just got a sloppy, haphazard TL;DR from another party member, the new player comes in armed with knowledge about their role and the dungeon. Now, they can focus on practicing things they should be focusing on: more complex tactics and nuances of their role and the duty.

Again, it's been done on Japanese servers. It works. Everyone is happier. Life is easier.