Shiva, the last hostile primal? Maybe not.

[FritoBandito]

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet in this thread, but I honestly believe we're going to go from fighting primals to fighting this game's versions of the Lucavi until ultimately we go after Zodiark.

[JTribal]

I believe that Yoshi P said once Shiva is done, he is moving away from traditional FF summons, not moving away from Primals completely. So there will be more, just not the ones we are familiar with.

Be happy, Cerberus is in the next crystal tower wing

Would be nice, Cerberus has always been a fav of mine, even if his summon sucked in FF8.

[Gerolan]

I believe that Yoshi P said once Shiva is done, he is moving away from traditional FF summons, not moving away from Primals completely. So there will be more, just not the ones we are familiar with.
Would be nice, Cerberus has always been a fav of mine, even if his summon sucked in FF8.

Here's his XIV concept art http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/F..._FFXIV_Art.jpg

[LineageRazor]

Well, they pretty much said in the last few cutscenes that Asciians by their very nature couldn't be killed, but they seemed to be working on a method to contain them. I think the future is clear: "Lahabrea, I choose you!" *Tosses Pokeball*

As for future primals, I always welcome the addition of Alexander, as he's my fave. Sadly, as has been mentioned, Yoshi P seems down on the idea. C'mon, Yosh - more fanservice is never a bad thing!

[lololink]

Well, they pretty much said in the last few cutscenes that Asciians by their very nature couldn't be killed, but they seemed to be working on a method to contain them. I think the future is clear: "Lahabrea, I choose you!" *Tosses Pokeball*

As for future primals, I always welcome the addition of Alexander, as he's my fave. Sadly, as has been mentioned, Yoshi P seems down on the idea. C'mon, Yosh - more fanservice is never a bad thing!

I wonder then if we manage to catch lahabrea will we be able to summon him as Mateus...

[Alberel]

I wonder then if we manage to catch lahabrea will we be able to summon him as Mateus...

I wouldn't be surprised if the 'true' form of the Ascians that Elidibus referred to was in fact that of the zodiacal espers. It might explain why Lahabrea was so easy in our confrontation with him too.

[myahele]

Final Fantasy has a theme of leaders of religious zealots being hypocrites. And ishgard fits that. While a majority worships Halone, the high ups know that deep within the castle of ishgard lies a once dormant Alexander.

Maybe the higher up are trying to contain it, use it or whatever. The fact that the Ascians are helping them is concerning as well.

Maybe Alexander is not a primal, but some type of machine created by Ishgard or Ascians. /fan theory

[TheMunimai]

Based on timing. 2.4 is coming in december knowing how late as possible yoshida wants to push out main patches - 2.5 will be the usual "3 months after" which lands it around March, which means it'll be only a few months until an expansion is supposed to be released if it's "coming sooner than we think" as he always likes to state.

So yeah, 2.5 being the last before the expansion makes sense unless they're not releasing it in 2015, which is 2 years after the game launched.

I highly doubt patch 2.4 will be pushed as far back as December.

2.38 is due soon and 2.4 roughly a month after that, so I reckon late October, early November.

[Nalien]

I still like the theory posted back in the beta forums that Alexander is the Twelve; each one being a part of him. It would be a nice Final Fantasy IX reference, where his summoning Crystal was split into four and given to each of the four leaders of the mist continent to prevent his summoning. This time he was split into twelve and each city-state worships one part of him. Final Fantasy IX was also known for its Alexander/Bahamut cutscene, you could look at the end of an era trailer as the reverse of that in this case (Dalamud being a form of Perfect Defense, Bahamut winning this time).

The Sanctum of the Twelve also just gives off a more Alexander feel to me than Ishgard does. Ishard is just one big tower, Alexander is usually vaguely humanoid (two arm/towers). The Nyzul ruins in XI are a good example of that, they all came together to form Alexanders body, at best Ishgard just feels like one part of that. Hmmm.... Thinking about it, that's another version of Alexander that was split into parts...

Failing that, you could look at the Twelve as the antithesis of the Ascians. The Twelve summon Alexander; twelve Ascians summon Zodiark. Archons are meant to be the embodiment of one of the Twelve, so perhaps at one point we need to find them all so they can summon Alexander; that might explain why Louisoix failed, iirc he was the Archon for Thaliak, so when he summoned the Twelve/Alexander, he was summoning at 1/12 its power.

[FriendlyUncle]

You guys are missing something. Shiva, Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Ramuh, Leviathan . . . -> Moon Bauble anyone?

My bet is we will be seeing Fenrir soon.