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  1. #21
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    RinchanNau's Avatar
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    Rinchan Nau
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    The other secret is having a 2nd BRD for t8. :P
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  2. #22
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    I assume the lower brd is the one on song duty?
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  3. #23
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    Jou Yokosuka
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz View Post
    I assume the lower brd is the one on song duty?
    The lower BRD was me and was in mostly i90 + an i95 weapon there, only having to sing 1 song (Army's Paeon, Battle Voiced) throughout the whole fight. So him having do to the same I did wouldn't lower his dps that much.
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  4. #24
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    Rinchan Nau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jou View Post
    The lower BRD was me and was in mostly i90 + an i95 weapon there, only having to sing 1 song (Army's Paeon, Battle Voiced) throughout the whole fight. So him having do to the same I did wouldn't lower his dps that much.
    It's a decent DPS gain for the other BRD. I did the same thing when my group used to have 2 BRDs. When the other BRD was full BiS I only did Paeon for one week to see how much he could do. About 10 below your BRD for whatever reason. :P
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  5. #25
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    I would personally disagree with the "Perfect Opener" thing.

    Using Hawk's eye 3 seconds pre-pull means you only have 17s at the point of pulling

    The opening of BL=>SS means there is about 2.5GCD from SS and about 0.5s of animation time, so after the GCD time has past, about 14s of Hawk's eye have left.

    Then you have RS-BfB-HS, which is another 3s gone, 11s left when you pop your X-Dex potion.

    Different people may have a sightly different variation in opener, but the most ideal opener is when you have RS, BfB, Hawk's Eye and IR up for the entire duration of the 15s of your X-Dex potion.

    Of course I do not mean popping all 4 CDs at one go, that's wasting CD time too.
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  6. #26
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    Aura Kurai
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 90
    There is no set rotation. By testing I have done. And I really mean everything at my disposal. All HA items/bow, all Soldery as well. I tested rotations and openers. The rotation you use is dependent to your sub stats. Skillspeed/det/crit etc.

    With crappy stat-weights(540 acc, 260 det 460 crit, 450 ss). A party. Dragoon debuff. aka turn 8. No song, nothing else. I can sustain 414 average dps at i105. only 110 gear on the right side & using rosenbogen.

    And this is the guide I wrote and rotation I use.
    http://daevaofwar.guildwork.com/foru...ard-gloriously

    There is no set or right way to do it. it is a matter of party setup, stat weights and as well the participation one has during such battle.
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  7. #27
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I have a different opener :\ I worked around with a friend on our burst with our Bards and we honestly just never took this rotation. I hit about 426 after 4 mins which is when I TPed out. I'm iLevel 106. I had all party buffs + Disembowl. I'm missing HA Bow, HA Gloves, HA Pants, HA Boots, HA Ring and HA Bracelet I think... But I can't agree with this rotation, it is not the best.
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  8. #28
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakuaza View Post
    There is no set rotation. By testing I have done. And I really mean everything at my disposal. All HA items/bow, all Soldery as well. I tested rotations and openers. The rotation you use is dependent to your sub stats. Skillspeed/det/crit etc.

    With crappy stat-weights(540 acc, 260 det 460 crit, 450 ss). A party. Dragoon debuff. aka turn 8. No song, nothing else. I can sustain 414 average dps at i105. only 110 gear on the right side & using rosenbogen.

    And this is the guide I wrote and rotation I use.
    http://daevaofwar.guildwork.com/foru...ard-gloriously

    There is no set or right way to do it. it is a matter of party setup, stat weights and as well the participation one has during such battle.
    Exactly. A Bard's DPS comes from a priority system and how fast you can react to said priority system, not a fixed rotation.

    By the way Drakuaza, I read the guide you wrote and there is one little mistake that I noticed. It's your description of Foe Requiem where you say :

    Well, Square Lied, magic resistance isn’t lowered. What really happens, it increases the casters damage by 10%, it increases MAGIC damage, not ELEMENTAL, hence why your own “flame” arrow doesn’t get a boost, but summoner with neutral element does.

    Foe Requiem actually decreases Magic Resist. The reason why Flaming Arrow, Windbite and the likes aren't affected is because they are Physical skills, not a Magic one therefore they rely on the Defense stat, not the Magic Defense one.
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  9. #29
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    Krie San
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    Ofc i know that a bards DPS comes from a priority system, and not a rotation, but for the perfect pull the only thing random on it is Bloodletter, everything else is on a really tight rotation.
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  10. #30
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KrietoR View Post
    Ofc i know that a bards DPS comes from a priority system, and not a rotation, but for the perfect pull the only thing random on it is Bloodletter, everything else is on a really tight rotation.
    I have pointed out that your opener is wasting Hawk's eye uptime. The ideal opener (I refrain from using the word perfect) should have all your 4 CDs covering the entire 15s duration of your X-Dex potion.
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