So Hunts...

[Mykll]

Hunts are the worst.

They push you to do all things that are considered bad. Or you just don't do them.

Yes so much this.

They should just do to As and S what they did for Bs.

Yes I have been saying this since the B fix. For dailies, remove the two fates, replace with B. or remove one fate only. Then the Weekly is commonly A, or the uncommon S rank. No credit without the hunt mark. Remove myth from rewards. This stops the locust swarm horde and gets people back to doing other things, and ends this nonsense.

[HeroSamson]

It's a poorly implemented system. Simple as that.

In FFXI Notorious Monsters were common enough that people were separated across the entire world, but each one only dropped specific items so you'd have to aim to kill the one which had what you were after. Since the hunt enemies in FFXIV all have the same basic reward, there's no distinction between one mob and another, so you get hordes of people trying to claim the same enemy all over Eorzea. Since there's relatively few zones and hunt enemies, this means every single fight is awash with players.

How they didn't see this coming is beyond me, or maybe they did, and didn't care. Either way, it's one of the dumbest systems they've implemented.

Yes but the world was expanded more and had a drop rate if you did or didn't get a item nobody cared they would just camp again.

Here the world is shrunken people get to places too fast its tiny.

SE might think the world is huge but no its not 5 zones from FFXI Would equal the whole entire world of FFXIV lol

They could not do NM's here due to everyone attacking the monster.

[Lovescake]

Having the B hunts give rewards was a better system in my opinion for a factor of reasons:

1- If people missed out on Allied Seals, Mythology and Soldiery by getting a lower reward via an A or an S, there'd be less complaining due to the compensation they could recieve back by hitting up the B ranks whilst waiting for the A's and S ranks to respawn.

2 - It split up the player base a bit more than we're seeing now since people know the above factor they'd hunt a B rank, then go to the A afterwards, risky as of now but at the same time lowered numbers of such.

If anything they should just make S's more common, A's keep the same but lower both of their rewards, buff them DEFENSE wise such as hellsclaw's ability to counter-attack the parties, Ballerinas 20,000 needles and so forth. thisll impact for bigger groups to somehow take them down or for the bigger groups to actually focus rather than mindlessly attacking then leaving it, aswell as reduce healer contribution since literally every healer i know will aero then medica spam.

[waldo]

I never complain about such things, and I never 'pull early' or anything like that.

I however do think that when people start going at each other in the /shout is the funniest part in the game. It's like watching mma via text.

[Amberion]

They could not do NM's here due to everyone attacking the monster.

That is the problem. When you have a system that makes it so everyone can attack and get drops, it will turn into a zerg if the drops are decently good.

Not only that, people think that they are entitled to join a fight even if they where not even anywhere close to the mob. So you got raging on others by people who didn't get to join the fight.

In a system that had it so only 1 person/party/alliance could claim a mob, then you only had yourself to blame if you didn't get it. Unless the others cheated in some way. And while this system have similar problem to the above, it wasn't as widespread.

[Waeksyn]

Fact is, SE had it perfect before they made the most recent change. Hunt groups are horrible now - targets are so limited with only A and S that there is often nothing up. When there is only 1 or 2 zones up, everyone in the group floods the same zone. Once you've made 1-2 COMPLETE searches of Coerthas, it gets really boring. This encourages people to afk during the hunting phase. B class marks roam around untouched forever - nobody needs them after the first day following the weekly reset.

Without going back to what they had before (impossible for SE to admit an error), things could be improved by halving the spawn time on A and S (this would restore things to the way they were before - B class mobs were half of the hunt in terms of reward - much more than half in terms of activity), get rid of the FATES from the daily and replace it with random B marks (NOBODY likes FATE driven events - waiting 2 hours for a FATE to spawn is exactly opposite of casual friendly).

A lot of the anti-hunt complaint is to do with player behavior. Resets, early pull complaints, etc could all be fixed by eliminating the need to have PARTY enmity to get rewards. Change it so that if you tag the target (in a party, solo) you full credit for normal seals and tomes. If you do as much as needed now to get full credit, you get a chance at a log drop.

[Dimitrias]

Its crazy how many people like to do hunts in this game. I rember I used to camp nm's sometimes in ffxi and there would be maybe like 8-10 other people there. With 14 seems like there's over 100+.

I never do hunts but when I'm out gathering and I see a flood of people run by me, I know exactly where there headed. It makes me feel bad to because I don't bother with hunts, but its really impossible to ignore it at the same time.

Always wanted to be a dedicated crafter/gatherer, but this game makes me feel like its pointless

[Moqi]

Its crazy how many people like to do hunts in this game.

They don't. They're just doing it to get Sands of Time.

[HumsterMKX]

They don't. They're just doing it to get Sands of Time.

I gotten 9 so far..... they do make great facial masks.

Reverse aging properties works.

[ispano]

Resets, early pull complaints, etc could all be fixed by eliminating the need to have PARTY enmity to get rewards.

No, the change would have to be to remove or limit the rewards that the drooling masses feel they MUST have.