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  1. #351
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    my sincerest apologies if this has already been addressed (but I waded thru to P5 and do not have time to read the inevitable bitch-fest):

    In a previous thread, it was debated that even though the dungeons will be instanced, the server would not be able to handle an infinite amount of groups going in at once. This would then (in theory) cause a lock-out on people waiting to enter the instance. As far as I know, they haven't yet confirmed nor denied if this would be the case.

    Does anyone know what the final word is on that yet? It would kinda suck if the new content was bottle-necked like the "new" behests are.

    *edit: also, I didn't really play XI so if you reference it I won't know what you're talking about.
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  2. #352
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    Why is everyone stating so-called "facts" when it's all just speculation?

    You guys complain when there's nothing to do, and complain when there's stuff readily accessible to do. Get a grip and decide what it is you want.

    End of the day, if you don't want to spam a dungeon all day out of fear of "burning out the content", here's a thought... DON'T. Do it once and move on for the day. Rocket science? Just because there (might) be a five minute cooldown doesn't mean you must re-enter after five minutes - they're just presenting the option.

    On another note, who knows how long these dungeons will take to complete? 1 hour? 2-3 hours?! Regardless of being allowed to re-enter after 5 minutes, will you even have the time to do so in the first place?
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
    Why is everyone stating so-called "facts" when it's all just speculation?

    You guys complain when there's nothing to do, and complain when there's stuff readily accessible to do. Get a grip and decide what it is you want.

    End of the day, if you don't want to spam a dungeon all day out of fear of "burning out the content", here's a thought... DON'T. Do it once and move on for the day. Rocket science? Just because there (might) be a five minute cooldown doesn't mean you must re-enter after five minutes - they're just presenting the option.

    On another note, who knows how long these dungeons will take to complete? 1 hour? 2-3 hours?! Regardless of being allowed to re-enter after 5 minutes, will you even have the time to do so in the first place?
    You are allotted 1 hour per run. How long it takes you is up to your party.
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!
    While fun is one of the most important factors to maximize, the devs need to keep in mind that time limits, as they relate to other factors such as game balance and content longevity, are also important things to keep in mind.

    If everyone gets bored of new content too quickly, the devs will get stuck in a neverending cycle of always having to make new stuff for players to do because it gets old so fast.
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  5. #355
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    Can't please everyone. It doesn't matter that they have the choice on how often to run it, if someone can run it more often than them, it will make them feel inferior. Some people don't want options, they don't care if something makes a lot of people happy, they just want it their way and no other way. In this case, some people are going to argue to no end that by allowing players to enter the dungeon whenever they want when they don't even know how hard the dungeon actually is or how often items drop.

    It's funny, many of the same people that gripe on other MMO communities are in here taking massive dumps in every thread they don't agree with, and they are making the FFXIV community look worse than the ones they complain about. lol
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    You are allotted 1 hour per run. How long it takes you is up to your party.
    Ah fair enough. Even so, my argument still stands - if you're bothered about re-entering every 5 minutes, just don't do it! Impose a 24-hour restriction on yourself... People would only bitch if SE did that anyway. They can't win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadacho View Post
    Ah fair enough. Even so, my argument still stands - if you're bothered about re-entering every 5 minutes, just don't do it! Impose a 24-hour restriction on yourself... People would only bitch if SE did that anyway. They can't win.
    Seems simple right? Unfortunately, their are those in this community that will argue with you until they are blue in the face and your head is aching.
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  8. #358
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    Yoshi P said the lower rank dungeons he'll be implementing are for "leveling", so that means you should be able to reenter them at a rapid rate, especially with fatigue gone you could spam it and get up in no time if you wanted.

    Now lets get to the important people, because we're obviously still playing the game and we haven't gotten any content for us (talking about people 40+ maybe even 38+ if you hit the exp grind hump and you know leve linking was god for then and such)

    These dungeons for higher level people are for gear and rewards, are they tied to public companies? Can i receive currency from the companies for doing them? Will it be "randomly drop to one douche in the party" system? This obviously isn't end game, because you couldn't run end game this sloppily, and with hints of level increase every 1-2 years I'll wait to see if they ever address that having someone receive and item in their loot list and take it even if they don't have the class leveled up, gives us less room to kick them before then lotting in XI did.

    Anyways the drop rate of such items will be super crappy if you can enter them every five mins and that will be the price we pay.
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  9. #359
    Maybe it will be Nyzul isle without the tags!! 50% chance of nothing dropping. :P
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

  10. #360
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    I see a 5 min re-enter time leading to the following:

    Promote Solo Play: Players get bored of easy stuff, try to solo dungeons as a challenge, with short reenter time and no enterance payment, its a win-win. Players not wiling to wait to form a proper party but just grab random bodies and zombie through it, again, 5 min recast and no payment, you fail, you all exit and try again, skilless stay skilless.

    Get everything as soon as possible: Even if its a low drop rate, repeat at this rate you can pretty much get drops fast and forget about this 4-month-to-make content. Getting all classes to 50 accomplishes nothing atm, not much to do in game but look at forums for update.

    Making it more convenience/easy =/= attract more players (well you might attract those that stay for couple of months, get everything, get bored and leave)
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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