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  1. #21
    Player
    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AirGearIkki View Post
    People mentioned that doing fates solo has better drop rates then with a party including choco.
    This has to be false. My first first five atma dropped quickly with my choco, I got about one a day at the start of my hunting, then I just hit a dry spell of luck for a month and a half, got two over that period of time and gave up for a long while. I heard about this theory and tried hunting without my choco for a while, got nothing for a good long while again, then when I started using my choco again I managed to get the last five in one day.

    RNG is RNG. Lol I still am floored that I got five in a day.

    D; Took a couple months, I'm glad the hunts over for me. I really hope they do something to ease atma hunting for everyone having trouble.
    (3)

  2. #22
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    Dragonedge's Avatar
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    Drago Ze'le
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    Odin
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Well Since i Did 9 Atmas with Fates in the Last 24 Hours..... *Hugs you* To rub off some of my RNG luck
    (5)

  3. #23
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    swordrain's Avatar
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    Yaaris Rowe
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonedge View Post
    Well Since i Did 9 Atmas with Fates in the Last 24 Hours..... *Hugs you* To rub off some of my RNG luck
    I dunno, I think I might have to eat you and absorb your luck.

    ...or just steal your atmas.
    (7)

  4. #24
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by swordrain View Post
    I dunno, I think I might have to eat you and absorb your luck.

    ...or just steal your atmas.
    You need to do more than that

    Sacrifice 666 lalafells and then Do the Manderville Dance for 6 weeks 6 days and 6 Hours.

    And if the RNG god is pleased then he will appear to you and DANCE!!

    (2)
    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-28-2014 at 01:26 PM.

  5. #25
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    Anapingofness's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 76
    @ OP
    Remember, RNG hates us all and at the same time it hates us all individually.

    That being said, -hugs- It gets better! -feeds cookies- (^_^)>@
    (0)

  6. #26
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    Velox's Avatar
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    Velo'a Nharoz
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kit07 View Post
    Are you sure you are in the right areas for atmas? MD and CCH don't have them. 1140 seems a bit much, I only did maybe over 100 and got all 12.
    Rough luck on your end.
    That's the nature of RNG
    As stated in another thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Let's say atma has a 3% drop rate (although we don't know the exact drop rate, calculations taken given people's experiences leans it towards the 2-3% range). For every FATE you do, you have a 3% chance of obtaining an atma crystal. This means you have a 97% chance of NOT obtaining an atma each FATE you complete. Now, what safeguards are in place to prevent someone from falling into the 97% every FATE he/she does? There are none. In fact, purely mathematically speaking, there exists the probability that you could do 1,000,000,000,000,000 FATEs and not get a single atma, because you just happened to fall within the 97% every one. The odds get smaller the more you do, but it never approaches 0%, and thus, can screw people over.

    This is why the system should have never been purely RNG-controlled. A safeguard should have been implemented day 1. Something like, "if you don't obtain an atma crystal within the first 300 FATEs, the next FATE will guarantee you one," or "The atma drop rate starts at 1% and increases by .5% every FATE you do in a single area and don't find one." Either of these implementations, while would require extra variables to track, would at least guarantee the player achieving his/her goal.
    The fact that the relic quest post-zenith is tied to something that's 100% RNG automatically means that there's a good chance that portion of the playerbase will never see it. Ever... The worse part about it is that those poor souls have no control over if they are the ones chosen by destiny to never get atma and have no way of ever knowing. They will be stuck continuously grinding FATEs to no end hoping they'll get it the next FATE or within the next 19,210,203,103 FATEs (if the RNG doesn't drive them to un-sub by then).
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    Last edited by Velox; 08-28-2014 at 01:46 PM.

  7. #27
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I've been ATMA farming casually while on DF for the passed 2 months. None dropped :/

    I still do it occasionally so that I'm productive, but I have no hopes. I got the UAT and saved up some myth, so thats good.
    (0)

  8. #28
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 70
    *hugs* I know that pain... started below 300 endede near 1300 or so for my set.
    (2)

  9. #29
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    bbkkristian's Avatar
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    Kris Valience
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Snip of a snip
    Well put. That's exactly the reason Atma needs to be fixed/reworked/patched.
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  10. #30
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by swordrain View Post
    Unless this alters the chance from 1/410,000 to 1/410 I don't think it would have made much of a difference.

    I didn't make this thread to complain about atmas, it was more of me just trying to get a pity party started to make myself feel better. Now feel worse because apparently I'm one of the worst cases. So lame.

    the chance of getting an atma is still ~1/20, you are just unlucky
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