A remake of a zone that we loved in FFXI ?

[Jennestia]

Succesful MMO and FFXI don't match.

Yeah, no business that made over a billion on a product would consider that successful. None in the world.

Trying to play FFXI you would see how deserted it got

Searcing my server, Phoenix, at the highest peak time results in 4k people. That was 2 large servers merging, which means the current servers are still a lot more populated than all of FFXIV. So if XI is deserted, what is XIV? Overpopulated?

Hate on it all you want, XI is successful and XIV is not.

As per "it's taboo to mention SE's other mmo here" ... do we really need to discuss FFXI or any other SE game in FFXIV's official forums? Doesn't FFXI have it's own forums for that?

The fact a lot of you seem to want to commit suicide or kill anyone who mentions Square's other MMORPG, yeah it is pretty Taboo to mention it. It's ironic too, you'd think mentioning another MMO by the same company would be more accepting than spouting off the usual WoW/Rift/TERA/GW2/SWTOR is better and XIV needs to be like it.

[Onidemon]

Yeah, no business that made over a billion on a product would consider that successful. None in the world.



Searcing my server, Phoenix, at the highest peak time results in 4k people. That was 2 large servers merging, which means the current servers are still a lot more populated than all of FFXIV. So if XI is deserted, what is XIV? Overpopulated?

Hate on it all you want, XI is successful and XIV is not.



The fact a lot of you seem to want to commit suicide or kill anyone who mentions Square's other MMORPG, yeah it is pretty Taboo to mention it. It's ironic too, you'd think mentioning another MMO by the same company would be more accepting than spouting off the usual WoW/Rift/TERA/GW2/SWTOR is better and XIV needs to be like it.

I wonder where you get those "official numbers" of FFXI's revenue and success... hmm....

FFXIV is not successful cuz they released an incomplete game which has issues they are trying to work out.

FFXI is a complete game that never caught on.... it never was popular and was never considered by anyone as one of the best mmos out there.. theres tons of games above it and SE should pick stuff from these games before they pick stuff from a game that is probably #15 on the top 10 mmo of all time.

EDIT: you know, if FFXI was such a great mmo and success, don't you think SE would have banked on that and made that FFXI remake you are all having an erection for? Yet they decided to make a game that is DIFFERENT from FFXI. Why stay away from such an absolute success? i wonder....

[Khalus]

FFXI is a complete game that never caught on.... it never was popular and was never considered by anyone as one of the best mmos out there...

You should surf the web more often, cause if you goto almost any major MMO gaming site or even general RPG site, and look at the ratings and recent MMO polling and you'll find XI still in the top 5 most popular MMOs. Or just read the comment for videos on FFXI, and you'll find that there are a plethora of gamers that will agree that XI is one of the best MMOs. {however, don't expect much from MMORPG, that place has always been horrible as is the community that only wants post-2004 clones}

[giftforce]

You should surf the web more often, cause if you goto almost any major MMO gaming site or even general RPG site, and look at the ratings and recent MMO polling and you'll find XI still in the top 5 most popular MMOs. Or just read the comment for videos on FFXI, and you'll find that there are a plethora of gamers that will agree that XI is one of the best MMOs. {however, don't expect much from MMORPG, that place has always been horrible as is the community that only wants post-2004 clones}

You live in a FFXI-lovers bubble and need to get out more. Lots of people played it and didn't really like it. I meet lots of people who hate it immensely and have only negative things to say about it, and many who liked it only because it was their first real MMO experience.

I liked it for the atmosphere (music, graphics, and art) but it was just an everquest clone at heart and I didn't really like the gameplay. It wasn't ambitious or inventive. So far I've played FFXIV for almost as long and enjoyed myself more.

[Preypacer]

You live in a FFXI-lovers bubble and need to get out more. Lots of people played it and didn't really like it. I meet lots of people who hate it immensely and have only negative things to say about it, and many who liked it only because it was their first real MMO experience.

Lots of people have played WoW and didn't like it. I've met lots of people who hate WoW immensely and have only negative things to say about it and liked it only because it was their first real MMO experience.

That statement is 100% true in my case. I guess that means that, by your logic, WoW isn't a successful game.

You could replace WoW with any other MMO and it would be just about as meaningless as you stating it about FFXI.

"Well, no one I've personally spoken to likes it... so it can't be popular". Imagine if all the world ran on that "logic"?

FFXI: 9+ years running. Multiple countries. 3 platforms. Translated into 4 languages. ~500k players for the majority of its time in service. 4 full commercial expansions, 3 adventure packs and the Abyssea expansions. The game is still running. The game maintained 32 servers for 7+ years of its service before having its first server merge. It still has 16 active servers, 9+ years into its service. They are still adding content. They are still actively supporting the game. It's still profitable for them. Game has done well enough for them that they decided to invest in developing an additional 2 (FFXIV and one they recently announced is in the works).

But none of that matters, of course. That you, giftforce of the FFXIV forums, don't know anyone who likes the game is - by far - more compelling proof that the game isn't successful than any of those meager facts I cited about it proves that it is.

Of course.

What do they call this world you live in?

I liked it for the atmosphere (music, graphics, and art) but it was just an everquest clone at heart and I didn't really like the gameplay. It wasn't ambitious or inventive. So far I've played FFXIV for almost as long and enjoyed myself more.

Your opinions and you've every right to them. Many others have a very different opinion.

[Synfrag]

You live in a FFXI-lovers bubble and need to get out more. Lots of people played it and didn't really like it. I meet lots of people who hate it immensely and have only negative things to say about it, and many who liked it only because it was their first real MMO experience.

I liked it for the atmosphere (music, graphics, and art) but it was just an everquest clone at heart and I didn't really like the gameplay. It wasn't ambitious or inventive. So far I've played FFXIV for almost as long and enjoyed myself more.

Yep, lots of people hated it. Lot's of people hate WoW (raises hand) Lots of people hate Aion (Didn't at first, do now) Lots of people hate lots of things. I think fish tastes like crap and so do thousands of other people so, Sushi must be a terrible business and a really bad thing right? That explains why there are only 5 Sushi restaurants within a mile of me yet there are 1 McDonalds.

Fact of the matter is, these days, MMO gamers are in majority 15~25 years old and part of a generation of Riddalin raised A.D.D wall-bouncers. WoW and the more current batch of MMOs cater to that. They create 75% solo content so the masses don't leave or lose focus 30 minutes into a group. FFXI catered to more social dynamics so until you established a social group the game flat out sucked for most people.

In WoW, Aion, LotRO etc the only thing keeping you in a group is finishing a raid that you will be locked out of and have wasted unless you are with close friends. In FFXI and hopefully XIV you became/become good friends by sticking out a marathon exp party session with no ramifications other than socially perhaps.

Sorry I and others Hijacked this thread. Again my vote is for Al'Taieu!

[Onidemon]

You should surf the web more often, cause if you goto almost any major MMO gaming site or even general RPG site, and look at the ratings and recent MMO polling and you'll find XI still in the top 5 most popular MMOs. Or just read the comment for videos on FFXI, and you'll find that there are a plethora of gamers that will agree that XI is one of the best MMOs. {however, don't expect much from MMORPG, that place has always been horrible as is the community that only wants post-2004 clones}

http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm

http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Top_1...PGs/index.html

http://gigaom.com/2009/02/01/top-10-...ing-mmos-2008/

It's strange i don't see FFXI in any of these top 10 MMO of all time.... I fail to see where you saw FFXI as one of the best MMO? Did the website name have FFXI or FFXI FAN in it?


On the other hand, i did find FFXI on the top WORST mmo of all time.

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008...010790,1.shtml

Maybe it is you who should browse the web more often and by that i mean other then FFXI fan sites.

[Demacia]

http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm

http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Top_1...PGs/index.html

http://gigaom.com/2009/02/01/top-10-...ing-mmos-2008/

It's strange i don't see FFXI in any of these top 10 MMO of all time.... I fail to see where you saw FFXI as one of the best MMO? Did the website name have FFXI or FFXI FAN in it?


On the other hand, i did find FFXI on the top WORST mmo of all time.

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008...010790,1.shtml

Maybe it is you who should browse the web more often and by that i mean other then FFXI fan sites.

So, clicking the "top WORST" link, I found this:

Xbox360 - Square Enix - Avg. Score = 69.348%

While the PC version of this game comes in at #7 for best MMORPG, the Xbox360 port turned out to be a dud and comes in at #6 of the worst.

Awesome credibility. What does any of this have to do with the OP topic anyway?

[Zanfire]

http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm

http://www.rpgfan.com/features/Top_1...PGs/index.html

http://gigaom.com/2009/02/01/top-10-...ing-mmos-2008/

It's strange i don't see FFXI in any of these top 10 MMO of all time.... I fail to see where you saw FFXI as one of the best MMO? Did the website name have FFXI or FFXI FAN in it?


On the other hand, i did find FFXI on the top WORST mmo of all time.

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008...010790,1.shtml

Maybe it is you who should browse the web more often and by that i mean other then FFXI fan sites.

lol i typed in top MMORPGs of all time into google, the first link http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/to...orpg-games.asp Has FFXI at #5

hey look....another: http://mmorpg-service-review.toptenr...t-mmorpgs.html

lol that was just a quick google (a lot of free mmorpg crap poped in after that.

Also the games meta critic is pretty high http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/final-fantasy-xi (85 of 100)

it kept steady 100k+ numbers for what 9 years now and is barely slowing down. Other then WoW, there are VERY few MMOs that not only last that long (like not going F2P or stay online in general) but keep even a halfway respectable amount of subs. Was a Niche game?..sure, but MMOs ALL were pre-WoW. Its also an MMO that actually worked across multiple consoles, truely the first of its kind.

[Demacia]

I wonder where you get those "official numbers" of FFXI's revenue and success... hmm....

FFXIV is not successful cuz they released an incomplete game which has issues they are trying to work out.

FFXI is a complete game that never caught on.... it never was popular and was never considered by anyone as one of the best mmos out there.. theres tons of games above it and SE should pick stuff from these games before they pick stuff from a game that is probably #15 on the top 10 mmo of all time.

EDIT: you know, if FFXI was such a great mmo and success, don't you think SE would have banked on that and made that FFXI remake you are all having an erection for? Yet they decided to make a game that is DIFFERENT from FFXI. Why stay away from such an absolute success? i wonder....

Can't tell whether or not you're trolling. I guess you're one of those "It's not WoW so it's not successful" types? Why even bother responding? Also people normally edit their posts to improve their quality, not throw it right into the toilet.