Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[Warrlordd]

If you think they are going to make NIN a Dex class because of gear distribution, you should keep in mind that the left side is unique already for MNK and DRG, only the accessories are shared. This is the case with tanks, casters, and healers. Usually 2 people rolling on each acc, except for BRDs. This will not change in 2.4 with NIN. Because fights are not designed to contain more than 2 favorable melee slots. Most of them have 1 favorable melee slot.

[NoctisUmbra]

If you think they are going to make NIN a Dex class because of gear distribution, you should keep in mind that the left side is unique already for MNK and DRG, only the accessories are shared. This is the case with tanks, casters, and healers. Usually 2 people rolling on each acc, except for BRDs. This will not change in 2.4 with NIN. Because fights are not designed to contain more than 2 favorable melee slots. Most of them have 1 favorable melee slot.

It would still mean that STR accessories now get shared across 3 jobs.

Personally I think it can be a DEX job due to synergy with Archer. I'm expecting RGE 30 + ARC 15 to unlock NIN, with the other subclass for additional skills being MNK.

[JakzChurchill]

It would still mean that STR accessories now get shared across 3 jobs.

Personally I think it can be a DEX job due to synergy with Archer. I'm expecting RGE 30 + ARC 15 to unlock NIN, with the other subclass for additional skills being MNK.

Yes but as stated as soon as musketeer comes in, in 3.0 you encounter the exact same problem with there being 3 classes that share DEX accessories. (Barring any inclusion of extra melee dps added in during the expansion)

And it's inevitable that there will be more Melee jobs than ranged, based purely on the weapons available to the Devs when it comes to choosing jobs. So no matter what at some point that balance is going to shift in melee's favour, so why fight it now?

[NoctisUmbra]

Yes but as stated as soon as musketeer comes in, in 3.0 you encounter the exact same problem with there being 3 classes that share DEX accessories. (Barring any inclusion of extra melee dps added in during the expansion)

And it's inevitable that there will be more Melee jobs than ranged, based purely on the weapons available to the Devs when it comes to choosing jobs. So no matter what at some point that balance is going to shift in melee's favour, so why fight it now?

We're not even sure we're getting musketeer tbf.

Yoshi P last said we would be getting a gun class, but that it "wouldn't be something people expected".

[JakzChurchill]

We're not even sure we're getting musketeer tbf.

Yoshi P last said we would be getting a gun class, but that it "wouldn't be something people expected".

Yeah musketeer just sounds better at the moment than gun class. Unless it comes from completely left field I'd expect the gun class to utilize DEX as it's main stat, unless they go the healing route which is very out there but could be feasible.

Also did anyone notice the Naruto references in the latest gameplay video? r/Arkenaw pointed it out on Reddit, the mob he fights is called Kakashi, and the two emotes in the upper left hand of the screen are a joke about the 'Hidden Leaf Secret Finger Jutsu: One Thousand Years of Death". Pretty funny tbf.

[Velhart]

We're not even sure we're getting musketeer tbf.

Yoshi P last said we would be getting a gun class, but that it "wouldn't be something people expected".

Unless the gun class's role is to pistol whip mobs in the back of the head, it is at least safe to assume it will do ranged damage, which does go under DEX. Unless SE does some weird thing and does magic bullets that require INT.

[Vermilion]

If you'd like to talk about Musketeer/Gun class please use a separate post to talk about them. This is for discussion about Ninja.

[Velhart]

If you'd like to talk about Musketeer/Gun class please use a separate post to talk about them. This is for discussion about Ninja.

It is still relevant because its in discussion of Ninja's place in the stat line and using the gun class as an example to prove a point for it.

[NoctisUmbra]

By the argument that MUSK will break balance for DEX, we arrive at the point that whether they chose STR or DEX for NIN, they will be creating some form of imbalance in the "near" future.

I would argue, however, that NIN releases by itself, and in the upcoming patch, after which there is still going to be at least 6 months before we see any new classes/jobs (ie. the expansion). We also know that with the expansion, we will get multiple new classes and jobs (including the gun-based class).

By that logic, I would think that creating an imbalance now would have a much greater impact and is guaranteed, as opposed to the expansion where the release of multiple classes can already have itemization balance in mind.


Ultimately though, they can feasibly go with STR or DEX. It doesn't seem to be an obvious choice for them either, as YP has said that they are still working out which stat will be their primary.

[Necaust]

I wonder if that Enhanced Dexterity trait was just left behind from 1.0 Musketeer development.