Question 18 of XVII Q&A Live Letter

[Amateru]

Agree with the OP. I really would like to not have enter lockouts in Coil. Crystal Tower system would be good for me. This lockout have nothing to do with player skill, but only makes it harder to find enough people to do it with. I like helping others and playing with friends for just the fun of doing it, rewards are an addition. I don't mind really run sellers, if there are people willing to buy its their decision. The argument that it makes a bad players who cant play skillfully and by that spoil others play experience do not persuade me. You could say that 7 friends or LS/FC helping you for free makes the unskilled player of you too, which I think is not true.

*Off topic*
Although I read forum a lot I`m not an active poster. I got the feeling that English and Japanese communities are extremely different in not a good way.
On my JP server there are no problems with hunts being an argue and community spoil seed, we do roulette a lot so there is no problem in not being able to go to any dungeon, we help strangers not wanting anything in return, there are close to none dungeon pranks and we clear difficult content in DF. Fun to be here! I do not play on EN servers but I would like for you guys to have the same nice relations on your servers like I have on mine. Happy play for you all! ヽ( ﾟ 3ﾟ)ﾉ

[EdgeFayth]

The coil lockout... Interesting topic... Plenty of solutions have been already proposed (how many threads were opened in the forum about this?). But no, "we haven’t been able to find an alternative system to take its place". Bullshit. Carrying for money is an excuse. It already happens anyway. I know many players who stopped the game because of this stupid lockout. The same 8 players static is too restrictive. I was close to stop the game, because I cannot raid with my friends (night working hours). With a different lockout, I would had been able to do it during the weekend. Since I cannot progress, I am changing server, to play with people with the same playing hours than mine. So I have to say goodbye to my friends to be able to play. Great...

[Jinrya-Geki]

If you want a way that we can't get the ultimate gear in one fight. Do what you do with weathered gear and sands. Get the gear from normal gear, and get upgrades items from savage level.

This way people just can't get the best gear so quickly. It still unrestricted yet not every will be able to get the best gear. So people can do it at their own pace and the gear isn't directly handed to them. Everyone wins.

[Parz3val]

Make it so people can do Savage once & Normal once.

Only one lot.

Done.

[wicked-one]

They don't want 7 people sitting there selling coil runs to someone who has no chance at beating coil otherwise.

Say´s everything..

[ruskie]

I could see one way to do lockout... only lockout the people that actually got loot not the loot itself. So if you go in with your static on t6 and you get 2 loot drops then hurrah for you but you can not do that turn for the week anymore. The rest now need to grab someone else(or an alt) if they want to keep farming that turn. That could include more people even new ones. That doesn't disrupt the current system and allows to still help others in FC/LS/PF etc... This also doesn't disrupt the idea that someone can get 2 drops for their job in a given turn.

As for selling runs I've seen 2 types of sells... one is the pure carry... - we don't care if you die we don't need you the other is... I need a group of 7 competent people that will do this with me I know the fight but lack the manpower to do it on my own(I have seen people selling such runs and I have seen atleast a few PFs going I will pay each person that helps me clear this N amount of gil).

I do not mind people selling carries or help runs - does it disagree with my own norms yes - but that's because I want to beat a fight on my own and my team's merrits.

And for those that need statics... here's a general idea on how to do it sans FC/LS(from a LS around it though it helps in communicating).
Start a PF for the fgiht you want but also add that you are looking for people to form a static and take your pick from the people that join and that you see in action - either you like them for one reason or another, either they are good at learning the fight or they actually want to join the static etc...

[Jinrya-Geki]

I don't understand why SE, and people's problem with buying runs is. Is it not the same for someone to receive the win by 7 people helping the win for free?

The only difference between the two is one pairs for it while the other is free.

But that's what makes an MMO, playing with others. Restricting people from playing with the friends they made is never a good idea. Yeah, you could find a static of your own, but then what is the point of ever having a link shell or free company.

[ispano]

I don't understand why SE, and people's problem with buying runs is. Is it not the same for someone to receive the win by 7 people helping the win for free?

The only difference between the two is one pairs for it while the other is free.

But that's what makes an MMO, playing with others. Restricting people from playing with the friends they made is never a good idea. Yeah, you could find a static of your own, but then what is the point of ever having a link shell or free company.

The gear and other rewards that come from the higher end content is intended to be for the people who can actually clear it. Free or Selling doesn't matter in that regard, they both cause people who wouldn't normally be able to clear the content to clear it anyways. To go with that, the content is designed around a certain amount of people being able to complete it before it gets nerfed. People selling runs or carrying people in general skew those numbers. It may not be something you care about, that much is obvious, but that doesn't mean it's not important at all.

Even if people disagree, the game is designed to appeal to many types, and content like this is meant to be for a certain group of people, at least until newer content comes out and such. To give those players a challenge, and a reward to go with said challenge. So, again, making it easier to sell or carry people, even if you personally would not, messes with that.

[Moqi]

They'd ban selling runs if they cared so much about it.

[Jinrya-Geki]

snip.

You say it\\'s for people who can clear it. Well what does it mean if some who has the skill to clear it but doesn\\'t have the people to do it.

If you didn\\'t want it cleared like that then it shouldn\\'t be made in the first place. Cause it\\'s an mmo, even just regular rpgs, you can\\'t stop that.

Example is that dead island game. Your friend can power level you through the
game.

Even if you can stop it, which Se is doing with current restrictions. It irritates and ruins portions of the community. You\\'d lose less buy allowing everyone to just go at it. Cause most people will be able to to it with friend at that point not strangers.