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  1. #1501
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    is there any FAQ about choco's dyeing? Kinda hard to browse 150+ pages here.

    1 thing for sure: Based on google spreadsheet, do I just feed amount of food described there? or there's feeding rule like can only feed 1 hour each or maybe RNG involved?
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  2. #1502
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    If you end up hitting Ink Blue again try x2 Pineapples and x1 Valfruit.
    Cool, will give that a shot and keep the thread updated. Current session ends at 3am PST, if that goes Ink again, I'll go 2x pineapples 1x Valfruit and update you at 9am PST.

    If the 1x valfruit at the end does not proc... go with a second one until proc? Would that be too much change?

    Also, if I end up back at Kobold Brown again... would you then recommend.... 2x Plums and 1x Pineapple?
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    Last edited by blueruckus; 08-25-2014 at 03:45 PM.

  3. #1503
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    is there any FAQ about choco's dyeing? Kinda hard to browse 150+ pages here.

    1 thing for sure: Based on google spreadsheet, do I just feed amount of food described there? or there's feeding rule like can only feed 1 hour each or maybe RNG involved?
    You can read Syrehn's guide on page 94 of this thread. It basically contains everything you need to know.
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  4. #1504
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Soot Black!



    Last color I was at was Bark Brown.

    I worked out on paper what fruits I had to give using +/- 5 points per fruit, and counting only the feeds that give the new feather message.

    From Bark Brown it was 9 Berries, 8 Pears, 6 Apples, 1 Plum.
    Ok, I haven't tested this yet, so I want to hold my "thanks" until after I prove this theory of sorts. But I think I'm finally catching on to this, and it's all due to this post here and how wonderfully he worded it.

    So, this is what I've come to as a hypothesis and hopeful conclusion. I keep seeing people find ways to get to Soot Black, and not just by the same necessary method either. However, due to the +5/-5 theory it ALL makes perfect sense now. That was the missing piece to the puzzle I needed to fully understand this. Apologies to anyone that pointed this out already pages back, but this post made me finally catch onto it due to the Soot Black being shown. I could be entirely wrong here, but please, hear me out for a second.

    Here are some things you need to know first: 1) the RGB values of whatever color you're at, and 2) Soot Black's RGB color.

    If you're really friggin close to Soot Black, like I've been, you've probably have been going crazy trying to solve this puzzle. I challenge you now to take Deepwood Green / Kobold Brown and apply the +5/-5 theory to the test.

    Here are my results, and I have to say, either I'm clueless or someone else screwed up on their reports. I was under the impression that feeding one Doman Plum to a Kobold Brown chocobo would finally net me my Soot Black. If you check my post from a few pages back, you'll see that I did not. I instead got Ink Blue. But why did that happen? Well, I have a theory that adding 2 Doman Plums, by referring to the +5/-5 point per fruit theory, would net your RGB values ALL in the 30's. Guess what's ALL in the 30's? I can tell you it's NOT Ink Blue. It's actually Soot Black's value. So, what does that mean? It means feeding 2 Doman Plums that BOTH give you a "beginning to grow new feathers" message should more accurately put you at Soot Black. Again, this math adds up based on what Noctis Umbra gave. It makes much more sense than what I've been reading lately, and I fail to see any other way of it working. Even for the sake of argument, if you want to argue that the RNG comes into place with how many points you get per "beginning to grow new feathers" messages, it still gives us a much better outline to follow when trying to figure out what the hell we should be giving our birds for every 6 hour attempt we get.

    Here are the results I got by just using simple math, and the +5/-5 technique:

    Soot Black RGB Value -> 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)
    Kobold Brown -> 42 (R) / 28 (G) / 23 (B)

    We want to use Doman Plums for this to work and I'll show the procedure down below: (Doman Plums remove Red and ADD Green + Blue aka "lighten" Red hues)

    42-5= 37
    28+5= 33
    23+5=28

    So, 2/3 are in the 30's with Soot Black, but Green is still in the 20's. Round all you want, it's not a guaranteed Soot Black. I already proved earlier it's not 100% from my personal tests with just a single Plum.

    Let's try one more Plum...

    37 - 5 = 32
    33 + 5 = 38
    28 + 5 = 33

    And now you have all 3 colors in the 30's matching up the CLOSEST to Soot Black than any other color. Unless you can show you another color that is in the 30's with Soot Black, nothing will stop you from getting it now. Let's just say, giving the benefit of the doubt, that 1 Doman Plum could still get you Soot Black based on some RNG chance, I hypothesize that getting all 3 colors in the 30's (as closest as possible) is your best chance at getting Soot Black, over one Plum that knocks you back to another color, like it did to me with Ink Blue and several other players multiple times.

    Again, I just want to make clear, I HAVE NOT personally reached Soot Black yet, but lets just go over one last of the reported Soot Black finds.


    Soot Black RGB Value -> 37 (R) / 35 (G) / 30 (B)
    Deepwood Green -> 25 (R) / 36 (G) / 28 (B)

    For this, the 1 Valfruit strategy will be explained by again using the +5/-5 strategy that Noctis Umbra brought to our attention: (Valfruits remove Green and ADD Red + Blue aka "lighten" Green hues)

    25 + 5 = 30
    36 - 5 = 31
    28 + 5 = 33

    And would you look at that, the accurate reports of 1 Valfruit + Deepwood Green = Soot Black

    ALL RGB values are in the 30's making the game take the closest numbers and giving Soot Black in return as a result to it being the closest choice.

    That's the end of my understanding. I have NOT proven this other than the handful of Soot Black owner's that I have read, studied and taken notes from. Please prove me wrong and explain otherwise, because this mathematical approach makes more sense to me than anything else I've tried thus far.

    So, am I off by a mile with my understanding or am I right on the money? Help me out here.
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  5. #1505
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    Storm blue + 4 APples = Royal BLue

    Royal Blue + 13 Apples = ??? Will see in 6h


    Quote Originally Posted by Y4mamoto View Post
    I dont see listed on the Excel: Storm Blue

    1st feed: 30 X O'Ghomoro Berry + 10 x Mamook Pear
    2nd feed: 10 x Xelphatol Apple

    I am going toward Black or Midnight/Ink blue. I would love some tips on how to achieve that color from StormBlue.

    Thanks!


    http://i.imgur.com/fnemKj2.jpg

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  6. #1506
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    Any suggestions to get from Ceruleum Blue to Soot Black? Or Ink/Midnight Blue. Fishing for some advice here on what to feed next, I feel like I'm really close.
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  7. #1507
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chek View Post
    Any suggestions to get from Ceruleum Blue to Soot Black? Or Ink/Midnight Blue. Fishing for some advice here on what to feed next, I feel like I'm really close.
    if im understanding this right, you are going to need to bring all 3 colors down evenly. so it would be a 1/1/1 ratio. As far as the fruits idk as I was kinda confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack View Post
    if im understanding this right, you are going to need to bring all 3 colors down evenly. so it would be a 1/1/1 ratio. As far as the fruits idk as I was kinda confused.
    Good suggestion! Just fed 1/1/1 of each and got the feather growth message for each, here's hoping for good results in the morning.
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  9. 08-25-2014 04:41 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    You're right Midnight Blue is sooo close.

    Current Color: Midnight Blue
    20R, 21G, 49B

    Desired Color: Soot Black
    37R, 35G, 30B

    I would probably use something like this combo:

    x4 Pineapples
    x1 Berries

    This should *knockonwood* put your end values roughly around 35R, 36G, 34B (assuming +/- 5 average integer) which is almost bang on to Soot Black; RNG is still a factor depending on where you're at in the Midnight Blue values so mileage may vary.
    I tried this, from midnight blue fed 4 pineapple (3 with new feathers) and one berry. Turned out Kobold Brown.. will feed a plum since someone had success with that to get soot black i hope.
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    I fed my chocobo O'Ghomoro Berry x 36, Xelphatol Apple x26, Mamook Pear x16 and it came out RUST RED

    http://imgur.com/SsutDJd

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