29 Attempts of Garuda Ex - Raise ilvl Req or Fix

[Alkimi]

oh and OP: Titan is harder than garuda. Ifrit is waaaaaaay easier and can almost certainly be cleared in the DF

Depends on which job you're playing. As a tank, yes Ifrit is the easiest by a mile. But as a healer it can be the roughest of the 3, whereas Garuda can be solo healed while being in Cleric Stance half the time.

[wicked-one]

Every of the EX can be cleared in DF, if people have a idea of what to do.

I practice a lot for Healer at the moment, Moogle in Duty Roulette is quite a good example...

if you get ppl not knowing the fight, you get really really bad time, whereas a good group, you get enough time to cleric and do some extra damage...

[Eddard]

Because hunting can get your ilvl up farily quickly, and people still having trouble, its not a ilvl problem at all. Getting to ilevel 90 which is uber absurd for the required for garuda ex, is super easy, even without hunting. The problem is with constant gamble of getting new players in DF all the time.

[Eddard]

Until they make a "experienced duty finder" a modified version of Duty finder, Duty Finder will always be a learners or newbie finder. If you think you are going to q up for certain fights that have mechanics that must be learned and get a 1 or 2 shot, your setting your bar way to high. Garuda is no exception.

[Eddard]

Every of the EX can be cleared in DF, if people have a idea of what to do.

LOL, dude of course its possible to do with DF. But you have to understand that with duty finder which crosses servers, there is more of a chance of getting newbies (I know, because I tank and q frequently to know this). Almost every single q for Garuda ex has a new person. I don't know how, but the millions of times i have tried using duty finder, there is someone who has no idea what they are doing because they just started. Finally I just gave up and found a party using party finder instead with people knowing the fight. They need to fix this maybe in a way where they can add a duty finder for more experienced players. Otherwise you will get inexperienced players who are just starting out.

[Fornix]

Until they make a "experienced duty finder" a modified version of Duty finder, Duty Finder will always be a learners or newbie finder. If you think you are going to q up for certain fights that have mechanics that must be learned and get a 1 or 2 shot, your setting your bar way to high. Garuda is no exception.

The thing is though, what would define experienced. As quite clearly having killed it once or even a few times by no means actually means experienced. People can have cleared something, heck they can even be geared in allagan pieces, and they can still make the most simplistic, rookie mistakes. Landslides off in titan, killing spiny in garuda, etc. There is not really any individual performance indicator which shows whether someone is experienced or not. Someone may have done it, someone may have the gear, but for all of that may have heavily relied on the help of others.

I don't think raising the ilvl would help. If you kill spiny you're still gonna die. If anything I feel they should add engame guildhests that explain primal/coil mechanics like the 1-50s do for dungeons, so players can recognize them and pick up the basic mechanics of the fight without having to watch a video.

Additional guildhests with raiding tactics in mind most certainly could be a good addition. And hopefully is something SE will consider for future updates. Introducing raid like tactics to dungeon bosses in a more simplistic form however, may also be of help. For example with the titan landslide over the edge, you could think of a similar knockback on a dungeon boss into a poison pool around the field.

[Staris]

Easy Add a Stat that tracks peoples ability to move out of red circles, perform decent rotations, and other key parts of encounters. Then it averages these into a single stat. Lets call it Slevel. Add Slevel required field as an option in Party Finder.

Profit.

[Fornix]

Easy Add a Stat that tracks peoples ability to move out of red circles, perform decent rotations, and other key parts of encounters. Then it averages these into a single stat. Lets call it Slevel. Add Slevel required field as an option in Party Finder.

Profit.

It is not as simple as that really. Think T7. Someone might have killed a stoned add, just before shriek lands. One way to counter this is to let the person with the shriek directly jump in front of the boss to get cleaved damage or stand in the ring which is about to give damage. Both are intentionally taking damage, which would normally not be required. Both with such an automated system though would come down to taking negative points on such a stat, despite in essence it not even being you to blaim initially. After all, it may not have been you who killed the stoned golem.

Or on Titan Ex, you may have perfectly stacked with most players. You may all have dodged to the correct side as planned. Except for one. One person decided to move a split second early. Places the plume in the path where all others walk. The person making the mistake is out of all plumes, gets no negative point. Whereas those who did it flawless, get to suffer.



There truly is no profit to be found in any of that.

[Veridian]

I'm at over 40 groups attempted Titan EX and all have died. Not 40 runs, 40 groups over 2 days. I think if there is a Primal EX roulette which takes into account how many failed runs you've had, and what HP % you've managed to get the primal to...and just put you in a group formed from players who have the clear flag. Ok, that's overkill, but I had to throw a hail mary lol. Just having a primal ex roulette would help casuals get past these primal quests I think. There's just no incentive for experienced players to do these fights anymore.

[Herrored]

Why is a requirement "Must not be new"? If you're using the duty finder, at some point somebody has to be doing it for the first time. Instead of griping about it, make sure everyone gets on the same page when you start.