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  1. #31
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    Barboron's Avatar
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    Bar Boron
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    The game will be flooded with i115 weapons in 1 month.

    Stop pretending getting gears in this game means anything.
    If it doesn't mean anything, why do coil more than once then? Why Do ST more than once? Why play the game at all if anything you accomplish doesn't mean anything?

    I just don't think the solution people are proposing will work simply because it will end up creating those 7-man parties that have completed it and selling or doing it for the sake of the 8th man getting the weapon or gear.

    The only way I could see this working is if:

    1- Only an 8man party consisting of members that have complete the turn can repeat turns for the week and have no loot drop, or;
    2- For the number of players in the party who are doing it for the first time in the week, have RNG generate a number to roll against them to even the odds. Although this would have to be adjusted given that there are only 2 tanks per party but then again, there would be the advantage of him/her already being locked out and just running for your loot. Also;
    3- You can only attempt a turn on savage after completing the regular coil or appropriate turn for the week i.e. once you do T6, you can complete savage, or attempt, T6 as often as you like for the week but remove loot drops
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  2. #32
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    Valentyne Laska
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    That whole syncing issue is one of the fundamental causes of the mercenary player problem in PF. The second would be lack of good content that encourages new players to form their own raids because its too big a leap for someone whose group experiences revolve around the duty finder (which is practically all new players). The number of older raiders has been in steady decline due to games designed to leech raiders from other big MMORPGs without making new ones, and the greater number of new players overwhelm our ability to teach them.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 08-24-2014 at 06:42 AM.

  3. #33
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    T6-t9 sales have been happening already for over two months. There is no reason to have lockouts in this game other than to keep players subbed.
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  4. #34
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    Jinrya Geki
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    People wouldn't have to buy Coils turn wins if they were able to do any time they want with their linkshells without the lock out.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    People wouldn't have to buy Coils turn wins if they were able to do any time they want with their linkshells without the lock out.
    Wrong, people would still buy. There are plenty of deep pockets in the unskilled masses who choose to be antisocial. There always will be sell runs. There is no way around it and people/SE should just embrace it.
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  6. #36
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    Oh noes 1% of the population will sell clears to 3% of the population. Clearly worrying about less than 5% of the population is a reason to not implement something that will be of great benefit to the other 95%. Merc runs have been in every game ever, and will remain. Stop worrying about it if you aren't involved in it (or are you jealous that there are players who can profit off of their skill?).

    Again, why worry about other people making profit if it means you can't play with your friends? Or would you cut off your own nose to spite your face?
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    Wrong, people would still buy. There are plenty of deep pockets in the unskilled masses who choose to be antisocial. There always will be sell runs. There is no way around it and people/SE should just embrace it.
    And that wouldn't be smart because if there was no lockout, I am sure you could find people who would help you for free.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    And that wouldn't be smart because if there was no lockout, I am sure you could find people who would help you for free.
    You expect most people to make smart choices?

    Buying runs in the current state of the game is stupid, but people still do it. I will gladly take any gil for a ramuh clear or for some HA gear. It's their poor investment choice.
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 08-24-2014 at 08:05 AM.

  9. #39
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    I don't figure it would get rid of all of it, but I would expect it to have a significant blow to buying wins. Also it doesn't matter if they buy the wins or not. It's their choice and gil.
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    Louis Victor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Who cares?
    SE does lol
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