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  1. #31
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    I remember some graph showing the difference between SS, Det and Crit for BLM and it was fairly small, they were so close that I'd say it doesn't matter which of them you pick.
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  2. #32
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    Edli's Avatar
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    Edli Papami
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Seriously don't use IV if you don't have the Gil. It's not that big of a deal. Just upgrade it to 110 for the dmg and later on you'll be able to respec it anyway.
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  3. #33
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    Sessurea's Avatar
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 60
    I won't ever believe a graph that says criting more often on a BLM is worse than raising each hit by an almost unnoticeable amount with Det. BLM criting is the difference between night and day, it means a lot more for a blm to crit than any other class since they have the highest non crits in the game. Int and w att take care of the numbers really, ss and crit rate do the rest.
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  4. #34
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    Archulak's Avatar
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    Lady Archulak
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    IMO SS is garbage for BLM if you get 50 more points of it it drops your cast time by something like .05, meaning that in order to get 1 extra cast over someone using 50 less SS you need to cast, uninterrupted, 47 times in a row which would take about 2 minuets of just standing there. Bar T8 when you're not handling any mechanics this never happens meaning any extra dps SS does is basically moot. Also after dropping from 590 crit to about 560 I've seen 1-2% less crits because it starts scaling poorly after 560.
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    Last edited by Archulak; 08-22-2014 at 03:30 PM.

  5. #35
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    Asked to Yoshi-P? I ask this because Novus (Or rather the Relic upgrade path) is usually pitched as the alternative to obtaining the Coil BiS weapon for people who don't have time to raid, but when you look at the time needed to obtain it (Even if it is over time) isn't the grind/effort required relatively similar? Rather than a "casual" weapon it's basically just a different "fringe" weapon, just not the same fringe as say T9 clearing. That and it's also a huge monetary investment in addition to the time involved.

    But yeah, just curious.
    I wanted to get the Curtana and Holy Shield Novus, because i didn’t expect to clear T9 any time soon. So far i’ve managed to beat T6, but haven’t started on T7 until i clear T6 with the rest of the static i’m in. Next to that (for comparison), i've started working on the Novus about a week after it was released in the patch.

    I planned to “cap” the Accuracy and Parry stat as well as replace the Skill Speed with Determination. In order to do so, i needed 31 Accuracy and 22 Parry on my Curtana as well as 13 Parry and 9 Determination on my Holy Shield.

    As of today, i only need to infuse 4 more Parry into my Holy Shield and if all 4 infusions succeed, then i’ve spend about 2.3 Million Gil on the Materia for it. The main reason is that i’ve lost 900k due to 3 failed Tier 4 Determination infusions.

    All-in-all it is a lot of money for someone like me, but compared to what other people had to spend for the Determination + Crit combination, i consider myself pretty lucky it didn’t cost more.
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    Asked to Yoshi-P? I ask this because Novus (Or rather the Relic upgrade path) is usually pitched as the alternative to obtaining the Coil BiS weapon for people who don't have time to raid, but when you look at the time needed to obtain it (Even if it is over time) isn't the grind/effort required relatively similar?
    Time to raid requires a steady commitment, whereas the time investment towards novus is something you can do whenever you log in. And the latter is often what separates casuals from raiders. Not the total time invested into the game, but the lack of scheduled play. Many raiders only play around 10 - 20 hours a week. Most of it being just logging in to raid. Whereas many casuals may play up to around 40 hours a week, but simply can't commit to being there on scheduled occasions week in, week out.
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  7. #37
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kuikui View Post
    The absurd and astronomical price tag is because of PLAYERS wanting to gouge the price of an item they believe they can cash in on. it's nothing more than selfish greed. 800-1mil for mat IV is just stupid. It is by far the most expensive commodity in the game.
    But if they weren't selling for that, prices would come down until they did sell.

    Why should I sell something for 200k when someone is willing to pay 800k for it?
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  8. #38
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Atma>>>Animus>>>Novus can be achieved solo. Hence the time taken is equal to the effort needed to clear turn 9.
    Can't obtain Animus completely solo... You still have to do 27 dungeon runs, and even if you manage to go through them alone, you still need 3 others to enter.
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  9. #39
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Can't obtain Animus completely solo... You still have to do 27 dungeon runs, and even if you manage to go through them alone, you still need 3 others to enter.
    You can que solo in DF. Do not have to have a party to que.
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  10. #40
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    But if they weren't selling for that, prices would come down until they did sell.

    Why should I sell something for 200k when someone is willing to pay 800k for it?
    THIS.

    Selling an item for what people will pay for it IS selling it for what it is worth.

    Selling an item for what it is worth is not greed. It is common sense.
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