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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta100 View Post
    i only use keyboard
    The only thing I do with my right hand (mouse) that's necessary for combat is turn the camera. I use a razer nostromo now, but this was true before I got it and was using a keyboard, too. Movement is WASD, Tab for targeting, skills on keybinds (1-6, QERTY, FGH, ZXCVBN, plus alt and shift mods of all those). If I were to move some things around (combine cooldowns, use hotbar swap macros, etc.), I'd be able to find room for camera control keys.

    What it comes down to is how many keys other than movement and camera you can comfortably hit during combat, and which modifiers you can comfortably use for those keybinds.

    What I'd suggest is getting your main rotational abilities (DK, TwS, Snap, Boot, TS, Demo, ToD) onto keys that are the are easiest for you to hit. Then prioritize the off-GCD stuff (Tackle, Howling Fist, Steal Peak, IR, B4B, Featherfoot, Mantra, Second Wind). If you're comfortable with modifiers, stick things together with some kind of theme. For example, all your flank moves unmodified, all your rear moves alt, all your AOE on shift; all your offensive buffs unmodified, defensive on alt, off-GCD attacks (tackle, howl, peak) on shift. Or openers unmodified, middle moves on alt, end moves on shift. Just something you can remember and use.

    If you're not comfortable with modifiers, my next suggestion would be rotating hotbars/skills via macro, again with some kind of theme per bar. Similar moves in the same spots on each bar, with one button to cycle from one bar to the next.
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    i am trying to get more dps with macro b/c using 1 hand sometimes i hit wrong button
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta100 View Post
    i am trying to get more dps with macro b/c using 1 hand sometimes i hit wrong button
    you'd get less. just keep practicing.
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    The only macros that aren't going to lower your DPS are ones that don't directly use your on-GCD abilities (see explanation above). Macros can't keep you from hitting the wrong button, and they can't keep you from using the wrong ability. You'll get more DPS out of accidentally hitting Twin Snakes instead of True Strike or vice versa than you will out of macroing GCD moves.
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    u said (DK, TwS, Snap, Boot, TS, Demo, ToD) but i can i write that on macro user??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta100 View Post
    u said (DK, TwS, Snap, Boot, TS, Demo, ToD) but i can i write that on macro user??
    I'm not sure what you're asking for. What exactly, specifically are you hoping to achieve by macroing those abilities?

    "More DPS" doesn't answer the question well enough, because macros for rotation abilities lower your DPS.

    The macro system in this game does not have a lot of features, and it's intentionally designed to make for inefficient DPS (see here). It's also got some weird processing behavior that makes some syntaxes unreliable. It's a smidge better for casters/healers, but overall, it's just really not very good for combat stuff.

    Edit: If you can get specific about just what you want, I can try to answer, but it's really hard to make any kind of general recommendation that involves macros. Because any that could come close to meeting the goal of ensuring you're using the right ability are either a straight-up, guaranteed DPS drop, and/or unreliable to the point that it's effectively the same as hitting the wrong button. On the flip side, the ones I can think of that don't come with an automatic DPS loss (hotbar swapping) may cut down on your buttons, but they don't do anything to make sure you're hitting the right button; it's still entirely on you to swap to the right bar and hit the right button.
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Hi OP,

    Unfortunately, macros and monks for excellent DPS don't mix.

    I would recommend an X-Keys foot pedal. If you customize it, you should be able to access other hotbars easier. While it is a manual style of gameplay, it can keep you more competitive in a game like this.

    E.g. customize the clicks to become CTRL, ALT, or some other option, e.g. Tab/Target Nearest.

    Then reassign hotbar 2 to: CTRL + 1, CTRL + 2, CTRL + 3, etc.

    Then using TILDE, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 as your action buttons. You should be able to get 18 to 24 actions out of your number row.

    May not be exactly what you came to the board for, but the foot pedal may open up a few games that were tougher to play with one left hand.
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    To be honest, i think monk is the worst class you could have picked... Apart from using a lot of different skills in the standard rotation, which only repeats after 18 skill uses (and that's only counting the skills which are part of the standard 3-part-combo), you also have to reposition yourself constantly between back and flank.

    To show what i mean with the long rotation, assume: DK = 1, TwS = 2, Snap = 3, Boot = 4, TS = 5, Demo = 6, then your rotation looks like this, and only if you can stay on the mob the whole time:
    4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 3 1 2 6 4 5 3 1 2 3 and only then you start over, and of course you need to weave in Touch of Death, Howling Fist, Steel Peak and Internal Release. And if there are more than 2 monsters you'll need Rock Breaker too, and if it's really a lot of enemies or when you want to silence Destroyer's Arm as well. Not to mention all the defensive stuff.

    All this leads to the fact that you can use hardly any macros if you want to be a good monk. Maybe you could make it a bit easier by putting DK and TwS in a Macro, as well as Bootshine and True Strike, because they usually come together, but even so it would kill a window for the skills which are not on global cooldown.

    You'd probably be better off leveling another class. If i had to name one i'd say bard, but since i never played one this is not based on real knowledge, but only a feeling.
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    As everybody has said, using maccros will lower your dps (with respect to a perfect one). However I think you can still put some of them together and limit the dps loss you will have. The maccros I was thinking to are
    - Mercy Stoke with Twin or Snap or BS or True. Only one of them (to limit the dps loss) but spam it!
    - Blood for blood with Inner Release
    - All your defensive cooldowns together
    I don't use maccro so I am not sure it works as I think though.
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    Unlike some of the people on here, I commend you OP for being so persistent despite your disadvantage. Why play another class/job if you enjoy playing Monk?

    As for how to maximise your DPS, I think the foot pedal mentioned by Fiosha might be a good idea. It will let you customise the pedals to whatever you need to make multiple hotbars accessible and also allow you to move more effectively. Bixby's suggestions have also been very good.

    In terms of macroing skills, yes, it may hurt your potential maximum DPS, but macroing off-global-cooldown abilities to certain skills won't be too much of a reduction, as you would normally be weaving these in between your combos once they are off cooldown anyway. It may lower your potential BURST DPS, like for certain burst phases you might usually sit on and save Steel Peak, Howling Fist and Mercy Stroke, but if these are macro'd to combo skills, you will use them straight after performing the ability they are macro'd to, and since they aren't positional, you will probably use them when positioning for your next move in your combo.

    While I was getting to grips with playing Monk, I had Mercy Stroke macro'd to Bootshine and Dragon Kick, so that I would automatically use it once a mob got to less than 20% HP following one of those two attacks.

    A simple macro like the one below will work for this:

    /macroicon "Dragon Kick"
    /action "Dragon Kick" <t>
    /wait 1
    /action "Mercy Stroke" <t>

    You can macro Steel Peak and Howling Fist to other skills in the same way.

    Lewena's suggestion with macroing Blood For Blood and Internal Release might also work, as you would reduce the number of button inputs. Yes you will reduce your DPS by holding off on using Internal Release until Blood For Blood is ready, but it may help reduce the number of button inputs you need to worry about.

    /macroicon "Blood For Blood"
    /action "Blood For Blood" <me>
    /wait 1
    /action "Internal Release" <me>

    I hope you manage to keep it up and that you stick with playing the class that you enjoy. Good luck!
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    Last edited by LukeyP666; 08-21-2014 at 11:33 PM.

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