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    Vegeta100's Avatar
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    NEED HELP IN MONK!!!!

    hi, community hope you guys can help me? i am a gamer that plays monk on hyperion. i play with 1 hand b/c i am handicap and i am lvl 50 monk. i want some monk macro but i don't know how to do that? i would appreciate if you guys can help me out.
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    Lollie Ondoreil
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    Do you keyboard/mouse or controller?
    Macros slow you down, and mnk is all about the speed. May be better to set up multiple hot bars with you buff abilities in the same spot, and subsequent combo moves in the same spot on different consecutive hot bars.
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    Like lollie said macros will slow you down. especially with monk because the only way i could see doing it is to have a macro for every form rotation we have which is daunting. I dont think multiple hotbars will be much help to you especially if you use keys like shift ctrl and alt, but depending on what you want to do a naga might help you out with its 12 button side keys and then you can use the two top keys for modifiers like sift and alt giving you 36 skills on your mouse. which way you want to do it is up to you.
    an example macro would be

    DISCLAIMER: I have never used nor created a skill macro before. This is simply an example based off things i have seen. It is by no means perfect and may not even function. It si simply to illustrate the complexity of creating a fully macro based monk.

    /ac snap punch
    /wait "insert you gcd"
    /ac twin snakes
    /wait "gcd"
    /ac dragon kick

    you would then need to do the same thing for

    dragon -> twin -> Demolish
    boot -> true -> snap
    boot -> true -> demolish

    you would then need an extra button for ToD and your buffs. if you wanted to macro your buffs it would look something like

    /ac dragon kick
    /ac blood for blood
    /wait "timer not sure was thinking 1"
    /ac twin snakes
    /ac Internal release
    /wait
    /ac snap punch

    you then get into things like steel peak and howling fist.

    you would then have to either put them into an existing macro like you can with buffs and you could have separate buttons if your able to.

    I hope you see how complicated things can get and even this is the tip of the iceberg. I really dont think macros are the way to go but that is up to you.
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    Last edited by Lev_Decimo; 08-16-2014 at 12:58 AM.

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    The Monk "rotation" is pretty fluid, so it would be hard to construct any sort of efficient macro. But for at least a basic idea of how to construct a macro:

    /action "Ability Name" <t>

    Is the most basic command. You can shorten /action to /ac, it works the same. "Ability Name" is the name of the ability you want to use, you only need to use the quotation "" symbols if it's 2 words (example: Bootshine does not require "", Snap Punch does). <t> is the target, can be another player or enemy, use <me> for a self-buff such as Featherfoot, Internal Release, Second Wind, etc.

    There is a few other things:

    /macroicon (or /micon for short)
    will set the icon displayed on your hotbar
    Example: /micon Bloodbath

    They recently changed the /wait command, I haven't personally messed around with the new wait command, but you will need it if you want a macro with multiple moves such as Dragon Kick (wait) Twin Snakes (wait) Snap Punch.. Hopefully someone else can fill you in on that.

    Good luck!
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Do you use a mouse? If so, they make a mouse that had a num pad on the side and have almost complete control of the entire rotation done by your thumb alone. With a job like MNK, using macros can potentially hurt things more than help. Had cool down buttons on a tab to click.



    Don't know if you use one already, but they are very comfortable to use and you have twelve buttons you can use which is more than enough to set up for doing a good rotation on your MNK while still keeping in control.
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    A couple of things to be aware of with macros (to give more detail on just how they slow you down):

    Macros can not queue early the way raw abilities can. If you hit an ability from the spellbook ~ half a second early, it will fire when the GCD is done. That doesn't happen with macros, so you can't even attempt to activate it until the GCD is already done. Spamming the button cuts it close, but you've still got latency time in there.

    Any macro with /wait or <wait> rounds up to the nearest second. This means if you use waits, you're sticking yourself with a 3-second GCD (because 2 won't work), which is even more pronounced of a difference between the effective GCD and what your actual GCD could be on MNK than it is on any other class.

    That being said, there are a few abilities you might consider condensing. Sticking your damage buffs in one, for example:

    /ac "Blood for Blood"
    /ac "Internal Release"

    Hit it once and B4B will go (if it's ready), then again for IR. Also possibly Shoulder Tackle and Steal Peak:

    /ac "Shoulder Tackle"
    /ac "Steal Peak"

    If you're in range for Peak, that'll fire. If not, it'll try Tackle. You're either in range for one or the other (or neither), so you don't have to worry about which one is going to happen.

    Beyond that, the main thing I'd suggest is swapping hotbars/actions, and/or using modifiers. Personally, I keep all my flank actions on an unmodified button, all my rear actions on alt, and all my AOE actions on shift. If you have trouble using modified buttons, you can make buttons to swap in actions/bars:

    /hotbar copy MNK 4 MNK 1

    /hotbar copy MNK 5 MNK 1

    /hotbar copy MNK 6 MNK 1

    Edit bar 4 to have flank actions, and stick the first macro somewhere on bar 5. Edit bar 5 to have rear actions, and stick the second macro in the same slot on bar 6. Edit bar 6 to have AOE actions, and stick the third macro in the same slot on bar 4. That way, you push the button that has the macro(s) on each bar, and your main bar becomes flank on one press, rear on the next press, flank on the next press.

    You can play around with multiple things to swap in and out. If you only want to swap certain actions, there's also this syntax:

    /hotbar action "Dragon Kick" 1 1
    /hotbar action "Twin Snakes" 1 2
    /hotbar action "Snap Punch" 1 3

    That will put DK, TwS, SP onto hotbar 1, slots 1, 2, and 3 respectively.

    Edit: If you can give more detail on just what kind of control scheme you've got and/or what you'd like to achieve, it'll be easier to give you more specific options.
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    Last edited by Bixby; 08-16-2014 at 02:06 AM.

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    Rumina Asou
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    while most of the comments have been very helpful, imo they dont go far enough. take one hand away and try to keep a mnk rotation up for max dps. not really something most can do. best bet i would say is to see if you can find a controller from the guy who made one handed controllers. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/mod.../1100-6418235/ . not sure if they are up for sale tho.
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    i only use keyboard
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    i am left handed and yes i try razer naga left handed mouse twice but only 1 moth or 2 it work then it broke down.
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    hmm how about this:

    map your hotbar 1 to: 1,2,3,4,5,q,e,r,f,v,c
    hotbar 2 to alt + 1,2,3,4,5,q,e,r,f,v,c
    hotbar 3 to ctrl+ 1,2,3,4,5,q,e,r,f,v,c

    target lock to capslock

    everything you do is on your left hand.

    i manage to do just fine. i don't use a gaming mouse because mine broke down and im too much of a cheap guy to buy another so i use a generic mouse instead.

    also i can do content with one hand, and pick my nose with the other. its pretty rad.
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