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    GC Elite Gear - Alteration to Cost?

    Hey there! So... I was doing some math on Allied Seals.

    Currently, without touching A or S-rank Elite Marks (which, for some casuals such as myself, continue to try avoiding like the plague), a player can get 274 allied seals every single week. That's a very fair amount of seals to earn every week, and a lot of the items in the game are well within a reasonable price range of that (though I would actually argue that the AF2 gear is astonishingly low by comparison).

    Would it be possible to alter costs? Here's my idea:

    GC Elite Gear:

    Weapons - 1740 -> 1080 (4 Weeks)
    Chest/Legs - 1000 -> 540 (2 Weeks)
    Head/Hands/Feet - 600 -> 270 (1 Week)

    AF2 Gear:

    Chest/Legs - 40 -> 160
    Head/Hands/Feet - 30 -> 120
    Belt/Jewelry - 20 -> 80

    I mean ideally, I'd rather have GC Elite gear drop a LOT more than that, but that seems more reasonable to me. Every other item cost is fine. My only reasoning for wanting to drop the price on GC Elite gear is because all it is good for is glamours, and I would like very much to show off my patriotism without grinding this content every day for a month just for a single piece of gear that will likely never be used for its stats.

    As for raising the costs for AF2 gear, there are two reasons for that. First, it ensures people can't simply go out and buy full AF2 in a single week without either working really hard for it or doing a bunch of different content at once. Second, with how AF2 gear can now be turned in for GC seals, that will cause the value of certain crafting materials to drop like a stone. Which while good for crafters, may not be ideal for the game economy, especially when the 2.2/2.3 dungeons have their drops altered to increase priority of gear droprates over crafting material droprates.
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    Last edited by HakuroDK; 08-21-2014 at 07:47 AM.

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    GC gear is glamor pieces they really should be in line with the price as in the same as the AF2 pieces. Nobody is buying the GC gear to use its 100% glamor with lower ilvl then AF. Hardly anyone buys this stuff because they rather get 110 gear with oils and sands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    GC gear is glamor pieces they really should be in line with the price as in the same as the AF2 pieces. Nobody is buying the GC gear to use its 100% glamor with lower ilvl then AF. Hardly anyone buys this stuff because they rather get 110 gear with oils and sands.
    Exactly my point. The price of a Blood-Spattered Log, used to hand off for Sands/Oil of Time, is 250. That's a single Log every week if you want to focus on that, and 2-3 weeks for every Sands/Oil, depending on which one you actually want. And considering how much of a pain it is to get the Soldiery Weapons already, it's actually not that bad of a grind, especially if you know what you're doing (i.e. Use Logs for Sands, get Oils from ST). And that's very reasonable, especially considering that i110 is some of the best gear in the game, and many similar pieces can be acquired from endgame drops anyhow.

    The pricing for GC Elite gear just makes no sense at all to me. I mean, unless new content is released that requires everyone to be in full GC gear which, while easy enough to accomplish with buying standard flame gear with ordinary GC seals, would make the Elite gear BiS by a mile. And only if said content actually awarded Allied Seals would I even consider the current prices even remotely reasonable. But as that is not yet the case, those prices need to drop.
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    Last edited by HakuroDK; 08-21-2014 at 07:54 AM.

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    i dont even use the seals for the AF gear, and they can be bought with myth. changing the seal price isnt going to stop anyone from getting the 90 gear easily
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    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    i dont even use the seals for the AF gear, and they can be bought with myth. changing the seal price isnt going to stop anyone from getting the 90 gear easily
    Pretty much. Between roulettes, DF, and A/S Hunts, you can pretty much buy a full set of AF2 every couple of days anyway with Myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baneus View Post
    Pretty much. Between roulettes, DF, and A/S Hunts, you can pretty much buy a full set of AF2 every couple of days anyway with Myth.
    couple of days? more like a couple hours, left side of course. not much longer if you include the right side
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    GC gear is glamor pieces they really should be in line with the price as in the same as the AF2 pieces. Nobody is buying the GC gear to use its 100% glamor with lower ilvl then AF. Hardly anyone buys this stuff because they rather get 110 gear with oils and sands.
    I imagine the point of it being so expensive is to give us who no longer need oil/sand/alex something to continue to work towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    I imagine the point of it being so expensive is to give us who no longer need oil/sand/alex something to continue to work towards.
    Exactly this. It's in line with the effort/prices for most other very high-end vanity gear in the game. (swimsuits, augmented AF, crafted sets from venture-only materials, etc.)
    There's no need to change the cost of these pieces; if you want them you'll have to work for them. There's more than enough other glamour gear in the game, and the purpose of these is exclusively for personal vanity and/or social status.
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    It's exactly why their purpose is glamour only, that they are so expensive. If they become cheap you lose the special snowflake status
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberus View Post
    It's exactly why their purpose is glamour only, that they are so expensive. If they become cheap you lose the special snowflake status
    Correct. I don't think people really understand the concept of vanity, and the underlying potential of "value" behind it. I guess that, unlike real world vanity, in-game goods which are totally accessible without hurting your state of living (like it would IRL for nearly everyone) blinds people from the concept. The value behind something is based upon the people who either A) produced it or B) consume/purchase it, as per THIS example.
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