Yoshi P - Please Switch Daily Hunt FATE NM to be a Random B Rank Mob.

[Triston]

Don't know what people are complaining about. Both of my FATES were done in half an hour last night, quite possibly because people were taking a bit of time to clear the other fates in the region(s) instead of letting them tick down. If you're just going to stand around and do nothing, then it's on you.

If you're NOT standing around and waiting and you're still getting the credit, you're a very lucky individual. These rare FATEs are now daily hunts/sometimes Animus books for many many people, and the nature of FATEs, like old-school NMs, dictates that if you need one in particular you must remain at the spawn point with constant vigilance. Otherwise, you risk being elsewhere in the zone when it pops, without enough time to make it to the FATE before people kill it. (happened once to me yesterday with Lutin)
God forbid you be forced to step away from the computer for some other commitment; the window of time in which these FATEs are up and you are capable of outputting enough credit to get gold, which is required for hunt credit, is pretty small, on the order of literally one minute down to 20 seconds for particularly camped ones. (this ALSO happened to me yesterday with Lutin; I went to pee and got back in time to get bronze credit, after which I gave up because I'd spent 2.5 hours waiting for a single mob to not get a whole 10 seals)

Popping between zones to check is unfeasible for most circumstances, due to the distance some FATEs are from the aetherytes. The only recourse is to either get lucky, like the quoted poster, or to camp for anywhere from 20-60 minutes for a single FATE, a solution which is decidedly NOT casual, low-time-allotment friendly. This is the same issue we have been seeing for Animus book FATEs since 2.2, but exacerbated now by accessibility. Animus farmers, having already broken the Atma barrier, are a specifically grinding-minded subset of individuals with time to spare who see a feature like this and say "okay, let me turn on Netflix; where do I sit?" On the other hand, daily hunts, being a *daily* and thus by nature designed for people with less free time that can be committed in one sitting while still being capable of progressing, are aimed toward a much wider group of casual players. This means more competition, thus decreasing the available window for getting gold on relevant FATEs even further compared to Animus. (which was already hell in regards to situations like "being at Hawthorne Hut when Enmity of My Enemy spawns")

I strongly support this kind of revision to make the daily 10-seal marks rank B spawns, partly to alleviate the FATE headache, but also because the 2.35 patch otherwise makes B ranks pointlessly take up server memory after Tuesdays.

[MrSmiley]

Kill specific fate boss is one of the worst things in this game, its often time consuming for no reason, and if you don't camp it you risk losing it and wasting more time.

[Rizon]

The Dev team under Yoshi-P has worked wonders in turning this game around. The current FATE system and its over utilization for content it was not really designed for is not one of them. FATES were initially designed to help solo players level. That has not changed since day one. For whatever reason Yoshi-P has deemed them to be the magic bullet for all their development woes. They are not. Until the Dev team realizes this then we are doomed to suffer content that would have been so much better if a little imagination was applied to them instead of a cookie cutter.

[Shougun]

The Dev team under Yoshi-P has worked wonders in turning this game around. The current FATE system and its over utilization for content it was not really designed for is not one of them. FATES were initially designed to help solo players level. That has not changed since day one. For whatever reason Yoshi-P has deemed them to be the magic bullet for all their development woes. They are not. Until the Dev team realizes this then we are doomed to suffer content that would have been so much better if a little imagination was applied to them instead of a cookie cutter.

Well to be fair they are magic bullets for miffing players... XD

[Davorok]

...* Please consider switching the 2 DAILY Hunt NMs currently tied to FATEs, to be a Random B Rank Mob instead.

This is a good idea. I have been saying all along that "B Elites" should be Dailies, although the reward should probably be lowered if they are daily.

The FATE NMs that are tied to the Daily Hunt Bills are still very painful and boring to wait for...

I fell asleep last night waiting for Serket to pop in E. Nosc. I did leave the volume loud so it woke me when it finally popped (at midnight!) but that is pretty silly.

I think Yoshi is always trying to include Fates in content so that they are active to help new players so what about a compromise?

Dailies have 3 "normal" marks, 1 Fate mark and 1 "B Elite" but include a Bonus for the 5 stack completion. (I thought all along that there should be a completion bonus).

Also as an overall improvement to Fate mechanics, please consider implementing "forced popping" when you slaughter the mobs in an area it "pops" the Fate Boss. (This is in addition to the normal timers.)

[Duelle]

I'll lend my support to this. Not much into hunts but I know a good idea when I see one.

[Tsukino]

I like this a lot.

In addition to everything else mentioned, this also would fix the associated achievements. As it is, killing one B a week is not going to get anyone any of them.

[ruskie]

Yup. Was thinking this last night while waiting for a fate to pop for my daily... these should just be B ranks...

[Edli]

I agree too. Waiting for a fate to spawn is neither hunting nor fun.

[Adler]

ummm, don't stand semi-afk in fate area maybe?!? Fates can be forced to spawn, I got hunt fates in less than 5 min each and the longest waiting for Atma book fate has been around 40 min in East Shroud when I seemed to be only person in the whole area.